PW Audio Cables Discussion Thread
Feb 16, 2020 at 7:48 PM Post #241 of 1,611
The Rai Pentas surprised me, they were much better than I expected, the Dunu Luna was fantastic, the U18s were freaking amazing, the Forte' a bit laid back... Labkable had some excellent products, the Labkable Samuri III was amazing, excellent workmanship, too...
 
Feb 16, 2020 at 11:54 PM Post #242 of 1,611
Hi Folks, I was at canjam and finally heard the pw 1960 4 wires for the first time of my life!
what a remarkable cable it stole my soul and heart, I usually started to hate copper cables du to harsh treble energy but 1960 darn extream bliss and smoothness and that bass oohhh my goodness.

My biggest question now is to go 4 wires or 2 wires? Unfortunately they had only 4 wires at canjam and I did love it alot. but price wise and comfort preferred, how far or what will change with the 2 wires?

I also want the 1.5m long and that adds more cost to the cable :frowning2:
I paired pw 1960 with my wm1z and tia trio, extreme pairing love it!

I heard both variants quite some time ago and, from what I can remember, you'll get more technical performance out of the 4-wire version (i.e. resolution, stage expansion, imaging precision, etc.). It also has noticeably more top-end presence, so its highs are crisper, brighter and more forward-sounding. By comparison, the 2-wire version will be a touch warmer, fuller and more organic. Because of this, I opted for the 2-wire version for my EE Zeus, as I thought the 4-wire made it a tad too bright. Flinkenick covered them both in his review of the 1960s, and his findings were quite similar to mine: https://theheadphonelist.com/pw-audios-1960-cables/
 
Feb 17, 2020 at 12:22 AM Post #243 of 1,611
I heard both variants quite some time ago and, from what I can remember, you'll get more technical performance out of the 4-wire version (i.e. resolution, stage expansion, imaging precision, etc.). It also has noticeably more top-end presence, so its highs are crisper, brighter and more forward-sounding. By comparison, the 2-wire version will be a touch warmer, fuller and more organic. Because of this, I opted for the 2-wire version for my EE Zeus, as I thought the 4-wire made it a tad too bright. Flinkenick covered them both in his review of the 1960s, and his findings were quite similar to mine: https://theheadphonelist.com/pw-audios-1960-cables/


Thanks for the info, looks like everyone is sharing the same impressions of the 2 variants and, since I like the more warmer side of the sound and fuller thicker, maybe I will prefer more the 2 wire, Trio still sound great with 4 wires and I never felt like the treble was of any displeasance. Also 2 wire much more affordable I think hmm.
 
Feb 17, 2020 at 8:45 AM Post #244 of 1,611
Thanks for the info, looks like everyone is sharing the same impressions of the 2 variants and, since I like the more warmer side of the sound and fuller thicker, maybe I will prefer more the 2 wire, Trio still sound great with 4 wires and I never felt like the treble was of any displeasance. Also 2 wire much more affordable I think hmm.
There is a poster earlier on this thread called kitechaser. They bought the PW 1960 2 wire and loved it. There are a few posts on it in the early pages here.
 
Feb 17, 2020 at 10:21 AM Post #245 of 1,611
I was disappointed by the 1960, I heard the 4 wire version and it was very bright, the 1950's blew me away! Very expensive, but worth it, you get what you pay for...Also the 1960 Monile and 1950 monile were very excellent! I say you get 80% of the sound of the full priced version, and build quality on all PW is robust... The No. 10 8 wire was interesting, but not in the same league as the monile...
 
Feb 17, 2020 at 11:25 AM Post #246 of 1,611
I was disappointed by the 1960, I heard the 4 wire version and it was very bright, the 1950's blew me away! Very expensive, but worth it, you get what you pay for...Also the 1960 Monile and 1950 monile were very excellent! I say you get 80% of the sound of the full priced version, and build quality on all PW is robust... The No. 10 8 wire was interesting, but not in the same league as the monile...

I heard both 1960 and 1950 man 4 wires...

1950 is the brighter one and has less thickness to bring more clarity and resolution pervasiveness.

To me 1960 is a much more fun cable and has deeper tighter bass.

1960 good with neutral reference iems.

1950 better with warmer iems.

But tia trio is warm bassy and dynamic and I still like more the 1960...
 
Feb 17, 2020 at 12:36 PM Post #247 of 1,611
I heard both 1960 and 1950 man 4 wires...

1950 is the brighter one and has less thickness to bring more clarity and resolution pervasiveness.

To me 1960 is a much more fun cable and has deeper tighter bass.

1960 good with neutral reference iems.

1950 better with warmer iems.

But tia trio is warm bassy and dynamic and I still like more the 1960...
Trio bassy? I heard it as W shaped with icky forward mids. The 1960 sounded boring to me Ha! Came across as 2 dimensional while the 1950 sounded 3-D!
 
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Feb 17, 2020 at 1:15 PM Post #248 of 1,611
Trio bassy? I heard it as W shaped with icky forward mids. The 1960 sounded boring to me Ha! Came across as 2 dimensional while the 1950 sounded 3-D!

what source and iems you had?
 
Feb 17, 2020 at 1:30 PM Post #250 of 1,611
lol I dont know what even to say haha,

I was at canjam maybe the ambient noise affect my perception? But it was clearly for me that when I tried 1950 it was thinner vs 1960. I use sony wm1z and tia trio to test it.

maybe 1960 just paired better with synergies with my setup? Dont know
 
Feb 17, 2020 at 1:31 PM Post #251 of 1,611
lol I dont know what even to say haha,

I was at canjam maybe the ambient noise affect my perception? But it was clearly for me that when I tried 1950 it was thinner vs 1960. I use sony wm1z and tia trio to test it.

maybe 1960 just paired better with synergies with my setup? Dont know

Probably a synergy thing for sure.
 
Feb 17, 2020 at 3:36 PM Post #252 of 1,611
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Feb 17, 2020 at 5:21 PM Post #253 of 1,611
Neither cables were bright to me.

I felt both had similar signatures but the 1960s is more musical while 1950s is analytical and slightly more resolving

I notice more details when I first switched from 1960s to 1950s during the audition at MS. Although the details were also there on the 1960s but 1950s were better in the extraction and presenting them.
 
Feb 17, 2020 at 5:32 PM Post #254 of 1,611
Neither cables were bright to me.

I felt both had similar signatures but the 1960s is more musical while 1950s is analytical and slightly more resolving

I notice more details when I first switched from 1960s to 1950s during the audition at MS. Although the details were also there on the 1960s but 1950s were better in the extraction and presenting them.
I think that is a fair appraisal...
 
Feb 17, 2020 at 6:20 PM Post #255 of 1,611
This is all too confusing :scream:. I haven’t heard either the 1950 or the 1960 but I hope they will be available to demo at CanJam London in July. Agreed that we all hear things differently, and that synergy with our gear plays a part too. I think it also can depend on the type of sound we like to hear.

Of course none of this helps determine whether I should consider the 1950 or the 1960 :relaxed:
 
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