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Sep 7, 2021 at 3:47 PM Post #1,022 of 1,657
Not sure about 2- and 4-wire as my understanding was that Monile comes as standard as 2-wire. Then there are three variants (feat. 50s, feat. 60s, and shielding) that are 4-wire.

These were all covered and compared in the comprehensive review by @twister6 here.

Edit: the 50s, 60s and shielding are indeed 4-wire.
 
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Sep 7, 2021 at 3:55 PM Post #1,023 of 1,657
Not sure about 2- and 4-wire as my understanding was that Monile doesn’t come in those options. Rather, it comes as standard, feat. 50s and feat. 60s.

These were covered in the comprehensive review by @twister6 here.
Ok Cheers, that’s enlightening... Not sure where I got that info from then, {music Sanctuary or PWA’s site}... Accepted. I shall check Twisters impressions.

Appreciate the link. Thanks.
 
Sep 7, 2021 at 4:06 PM Post #1,024 of 1,657
Not sure about 2- and 4-wire as my understanding was that Monile comes as standard as 2-wire. Then there are three variants (feat. 50s, feat. 60s, and shielding) that are 4-wire.

These were all covered and compared in the comprehensive review by @twister6 here.

Edit: the 50s, 60s and shielding are indeed 4-wire.
Remember, 4 wires are really 8 wires... its 8 conductors... the 2 wire is a 4 wire.
 
Sep 7, 2021 at 4:18 PM Post #1,025 of 1,657
Not sure about 2- and 4-wire as my understanding was that Monile comes as standard as 2-wire. Then there are three variants (feat. 50s, feat. 60s, and shielding) that are 4-wire.

These were all covered and compared in the comprehensive review by @twister6 here.

Edit: the 50s, 60s and shielding are indeed 4-wire.
Remember, 4 wires are really 8 wires... its 8 conductors... the 2 wire is a 4 wire.
Cheers. Appreciate you clarifying that.

@xenithon
That makes sense now regarding the variants but still not sure where I am getting the Silver/Copper mix from. Need to read Twisters review and I’m confident that will sort me out.
 
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Sep 7, 2021 at 4:32 PM Post #1,026 of 1,657
Hello,

Please excuse me Chaps {Ladies?}

If you don’t mind me quickly jumping in here {Edit:Or maybe not so quick as it turns out} in the pursuit of some expert knowledge... 🤨

Currently using the PWA No:10 {8 Wire} with CA Solaris2020~OG Hugo:
V impressed with this I must say!

So... Striving, Like you do, on our paths in the pursuit, looking up, wanting bigger, better, faster-stronger~ Fatter?

Hell yeah, why not...

and in doing so, eyein the sky & all that mystery or is it mytholog? Dunno... so somewhere way up yonder, with a bit of luck on side, we are hoping to avoid the Bird turd landing upon us as we do, whilst somehow then stepping in a big ‘FAT’ Dog Sheet on the pavement beneath us, in the process...

Did you say ‘Burn in?’ It is as if in ‘the moment’ everyone looks around in a blind panic and or denial... maybe down to a lack of experience of that Eureka moment and spark as the lights come on.

However... As we are Surrounded by A distinct smell of bull cr@p everywhere, sometimes it’s so tough to see the wood from the trees. The fire continues to burn.

I’ll be alright!

I’m a believer btw.

Where was I?
¥£$... I am curious if anyone has A>B’d the Monile 2&4 Wire and deciphered any notable differences in their sonic signatures?

Please take into consideration where the No:10 fits in here if you will, SQ wise.
......................

Also, I’m aware that the No:10’s Wire composition was kept under wraps {SPC?} With perhaps this presumption or assumption on my part {please correct me if I’m wrong} I would especially like the knowledge!
So, really am liking what I am hearing here but... {I want more!}🤪

Any direction, alternative recommendations or a trebly‘slap’ or sub-sonic low punch would be highly appreciated.

Many thanks in anticipation...

Oh that’s it...
Golden Ratio somehow equates to = 1.618
It’s Organic and complex within Nature, beyond comprehension possibly or just part of the plan. Sacred Geometry = Mathematics.
Beyond me.

Mr Cardas and Wong know the score and have managed to work it out! The Oregan copper cannot be beat!

Cheers Boys.
I don't have the Monoline, but I do have the 1960s 2-wire, No. 10, and 5 8-wire, several others. To be honest, it depends on the application, what IEM(s), music you listen to (I listen to classical, classic rock, and folk, so my take might not apply to EDM), plus as you explore further, you’ll find different manufacturers “skin the cat” (apologies to PETA) differently.
 
Sep 7, 2021 at 4:41 PM Post #1,027 of 1,657
Cheers. Appreciate you clarifying that.

@xenithon
That makes sense now regarding the variants but still not sure where I am getting the Silver/Copper mix from. Need to read Twisters review and I’m confident that will sort me out.

well... perhaps not, clearly my head is up my bum judging by my first post.🖖🏻
Well, IDK about the normal 2 wire Monile, but I have the Monile50s (8 wire) and I love it...the soundstage is huge and the dynamics and clarity are unreal...
 
Sep 7, 2021 at 5:43 PM Post #1,028 of 1,657
I don't have the Monoline, but I do have the 1960s 2-wire, No. 10, and 5 8-wire, several others. To be honest, it depends on the application, what IEM(s), music you listen to (I listen to classical, classic rock, and folk, so my take might not apply to EDM), plus as you explore further, you’ll find different manufacturers “skin the cat” (apologies to PETA) differently.
Hey... Great! I’m presently using the No:10 with Solaris 2020’s {220+ hrs on them} with OG Hugo mainly Streaming~ Loving the 2020s with No:10.

Looking at a Mid-fi Dap {Cayin N3Pro perhaps [Amping Options] or Cowon Plenue2} not sure. I listen to all sorts of tunes tbh but very into ‘decent recording practice’ with fine digital conversion. {60’s 70’s Rumours~Wings~Floyd~Bowie~
10cc etc} through to more current Electronica/Beats~Deadmau5~DJ Shadow~AphexTwin~ Public Service Broacasting To Radiohead~Nick Drake~Scott W~the National~Local Natives etc.

Solaris + No:10 so far, really does all of the above very well to my ears. Sedna Xel’s tips also part of the equation IMO~ Tight, accurate, detailed, separated and concise = Fookin Top of the league! Personal opinion of course.

We can always take things further however and all is relative. Increments.

Question for you and one that I really wanted to know, really happy that you showed up: How would you describe the Sonic differences between the PW 1960’s (2 wire) vs No:10?
Across the board if you can. Plus if you know the diff between 1960’s 2 v 4 that would be a bonus.

I read about the 50’s & 60’s some time back and my brain ‘IS’ slowly turning into a cauliflower as I type...
I understood that 60s v 50s {Cardas Clear Light vs Cardas Clear?} was that 50’s was more refined and not as thick perhaps... dunno.

Brain Collapse.

Please Give me your best shot Catman!
{Still need to read Twisters Rev btw}

Big Thanks.
 
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Sep 7, 2021 at 7:37 PM Post #1,031 of 1,657
Not sure about 2- and 4-wire as my understanding was that Monile comes as standard as 2-wire. Then there are three variants (feat. 50s, feat. 60s, and shielding) that are 4-wire.

These were all covered and compared in the comprehensive review by @twister6 here.

Edit: the 50s, 60s and shielding are indeed 4-wire.
Just finished Twisters comprehensive and specifically informative PW Audio Monile~Monile ft1950/60 & Shielded variants review. Top Notch.

For my clarification and to summarise without the detailed specifics are that the Monile series are a Pure Silver/Copper Hybrid Cable. The standard Monile aside... the others are technically related to the original PW Audio 1950/1960’s Cable + ‘fat’ Shielded option with the addition of ‘Monile’ Silver Hybrid with 50’s/60’s copper variants and their internal methodologies.

Also checked his PW Audio No:10 review. As I mentioned earlier, his assumption was a composition of SPC. His findings were not typically the ‘usual brighter/thinner’ sounding stock SPC cable produced by other manufacturers but a superior technically competent offering.

WildCat... v interested in your opinion regarding the No10 vs 1960 if you are able.
Cheers.
 
Sep 7, 2021 at 9:01 PM Post #1,032 of 1,657
Hey... Great! I’m presently using the No:10 with Solaris 2020’s {220+ hrs on them} with OG Hugo mainly Streaming~ Loving the 2020s with No:10.

Looking at a Mid-fi Dap {Cayin N3Pro perhaps [Amping Options] or Cowon Plenue2} not sure. I listen to all sorts of tunes tbh but very into ‘decent recording practice’ with fine digital conversion. {60’s 70’s Rumours~Wings~Floyd~Bowie~
10cc etc} through to more current Electronica/Beats~Deadmau5~DJ Shadow~AphexTwin~ Public Service Broacasting To Radiohead~Nick Drake~Scott W~the National~Local Natives etc.

Solaris + No:10 so far, really does all of the above very well to my ears. Sedna tips also part of the equation IMO~ Tight, accurate, detailed, separated and concise = Fookin Top of the league! Personal opinion of course.

We can always take things further however and all is relative. Increments.

Question for you and one that I really wanted to know, really happy that you showed up: How would you describe the Sonic differences between the PW 1960’s (2 wire) vs No:10?
Across the board if you can. Plus if you know the diff between 1960’s 2 v 4 that would be a bonus.

I read about the 50’s & 60’s some time back and my brain ‘IS’ slowly turning into a cauliflower as I type...
I understood that 60s v 50s {Cardas Clear Light vs Cardas Clear?} was that 50’s was more refined and not as thick perhaps... dunno.

Brain Collapse.

Please Give me your best shot Catman!
{Still need to read Twisters Rev btw}

Big Thanks.
I don't have the 50s, but my understanding is that it's not quite as rich sounding as the 60s. To be hones, is reach out to Peter at PW Audio, he will srear you straight.

In my humble opinion, while had the Solaris OG, I liked the 60s a bunch. It added some needed body to the mids.
 
Sep 7, 2021 at 9:12 PM Post #1,033 of 1,657
I don't have the 50s, but my understanding is that it's not quite as rich sounding as the 60s. To be hones, is reach out to Peter at PW Audio, he will srear you straight.

In my humble opinion, while had the Solaris OG, I liked the 60s a bunch. It added some needed body to the mids.
See, I demoed the 60s and was unimpressed...sounded flat to me.
 
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