[joespride]

  Personally I liked those Amperex 12at7's, they put on a good show.  See you sold your Ember, I will be putting mine up for sale as soon as my new Elise gets here. Bought a pair of Beyerdynamic T1's, and I am thinking I like them better than my 650's or 700's so more sale's to go.  Keep getting on the wife's nerve's, just watch out for frying pans in the night!

If you offer up another hd650 at close to the price of your last pair PM me.........................I have been curious about the hd700 and how it would compare to the HD800. I had the HD800 for a spell and I loved them finances forced sell though

 

[connieflyer]

650's already gone, have the 700's but price for those would be higher.

 

[Lohb]

Is the power output quoted for Garage 1217 stuff per channel or total mWatts ?

 

[joespride]

Per channel, Quoted power out is max to EACH chaannel

 

[Mechans1]

I have been using the "Ember" with HD 700s and KXXs and it seems to have plenty of power for those conventional HPs.  How many Watts or MiliWatts  per channel does it put out.  I have an amp a lot like the Elise which I also use.  Power has not been an issue for me so far.  I suppose certain electrostatic type  HPs would require much more power.
I noted that a recent post favored Amperex 12AT7s.  I have always liked Amperex 12AU7s and have all I think I will ever need.  The 7316s are legendary , unfortunately the price has gone way up.  That is  for the  real 7316s, in addition there are a large number of fakes being offered.

 

[joespride]

Cross the graph with you cans ohms, VS the resistance setting you have selected (blue, red, or purple) to get max output on ember
 
Graph courtesy of garage 1217 

 

[Lohb]

Is the Project Starlight just a less powerful version of the PE2 ? I had just been looking at Starlight as it could accept the Burson opamps which get a lot of rave reviews over in the Gustard H10 thread.

 
I like the idea of further dialability of tubes AND opamps but wonder if the PE2 has all-round better components from the get-go ?

 

[joespride]

  Is the Project Starlight just a less powerful version of the PE2 ? I had just been looking at Starlight as it could accept the Burson opamps which get a lot of rave reviews over in the Gustard H10 thread.

 
I like the idea of further dialability of tubes AND opamps but wonder if the PE2 has all-round better components from the get-go ?

IMHO the starlight is easily as good as Ember with both headphones I used with it (He500, and HD650) and I frankly enjoyed the sound quality more with starlight. it sounded more organic while ember sounds harder.  In there price ranges IMHO there is nothing better on the market for either one

 

[Luckbad]

  Is the Project Starlight just a less powerful version of the PE2 ? I had just been looking at Starlight as it could accept the Burson opamps which get a lot of rave reviews over in the Gustard H10 thread.

 
I like the idea of further dialability of tubes AND opamps but wonder if the PE2 has all-round better components from the get-go ?

 
I haven't heard the Starlight yet, but I adore the Horizon III and Sunrise III. The Ember II is very good, but both of those have a much more tube-like quality to them, more musical and organic sounding.
 
Email Jeremy with the sort of amp you're looking for and he can steer you right.

 

[techboy]

Since getting 6sn7 tubes,

Sylvania 6sn7wgt works fine

But. Tried 3 VT 231's. Two from Syl. One from RCA. 

All 3 have a severe buzzing noise. 

Increases with use. 

Could it be a grounding issue? Or could it be the adapter?

12AU7 work fine. As do 6dj8. As do Syl 6sn7wgt. 

Please help. Not usable with VT 231 tubes so far. 

 

[HOWIE13]

  Since getting 6sn7 tubes,

Sylvania 6sn7wgt works fine

But. Tried 3 VT 231's. Two from Syl. One from RCA. 

All 3 have a severe buzzing noise. 

Increases with use. 

Could it be a grounding issue? Or could it be the adapter?

12AU7 work fine. As do 6dj8. As do Syl 6sn7wgt. 

Please help. Not usable with VT 231 tubes so far. 

As far as I know the VT231 designation just refers to a 6SN7 tube made during the WW2 years. I don't think it is necessarily structurally different from tubes from the same manufacturer made immediately before or after that period.
Anyway, if the adapter is alright with your 6SN7wgt it's unlikely to be the adapter that's the culprit.
I have two Sylvania VT231's and both are silent in Ember so I strongly suspect your buzzing problem is an individual tube issue and maybe related to grounding issues.
It's worth giving the pins a good clean to see if that helps and sometimes giving the tube and adapter a wiggle in the socket can remove a buzz due to a poor contact but, unfortunately, some tubes do buzz, though in my experience it's not a feature of VT231's in general with Ember.

 

[techboy]

I have tried 3 different VT 231s so far. All have the same issues.

Also,

Update

VT 231 = 1940's Mil variant of 6sn7

People are using it fine.

Note:

using almun foil over the tube -> reduces noise

putting on top of DAD -> reduces the noise

bypassing input capacitors -> increases the noise

removing 25ft extender cable -> reduces the noise

 

[techboy]

And the tubes aren't the culprit, they don't make any noise in other amps.

 

[HOWIE13]

I have tried 3 different VT 231s so far. All have the same issues.

Also,

Update

VT 231 = 1940's Mil variant of 6sn7

People are using it fine.

Note:

using almun foil over the tube -> reduces noise

putting on top of DAD -> reduces the noise

bypassing input capacitors -> increases the noise

removing 25ft extender cable -> reduces the noise

An earthed Faraday cage can work very well but I have never read of anybody needing to use one with a conventional 6SN7 tube in Ember. It would be interesting to try it if all else fails.
Who or what is DAD?

 

[HOWIE13]

And the tubes aren't the culprit, they don't make any noise in other amps.

Which other amps?