Precog's IEM Reviews & Impressions

Jun 14, 2021 at 2:51 AM Post #751 of 3,716
Etymotic EVO Impressions

Hey guys, the EVO demo unit arrived today. As usual, I'm going to eschew from commentary on the physical aspects. I think others will cover those much more in-depth than I care to. The only thing I will comment on is the cable. It is the thinnest cable I have seen on an IEM; I really hope this gets an update because it tangles like mad. Listening impressions are from about an hour of listening off of my DX300.


https://precog.squig.link/?share=Etymotic_EVO

As expected from Etymotic, EVO's tuning is pretty competent; it falls close to what we've seen from Etymotic's other IEMs. Bass is somewhere between the ER4XR and ER2XR in terms of quantity. It's solid, clean BA bass. This is a reference-oriented IEM, so most will be familiar with the flat lower-midrange contrasted to an elevated upper-midrange. This results in leaner notes and a more upfront presentation, but should sound quite transparent. The weakest point of EVO's tuning is the treble response. I had to run a couple sine-sweeps to confirm what I was hearing. In this case, I think the graph mostly depicts what I observed. You have a peak at 8kHz in the mid-treble, a dip after this point from roughly 10-14kHz, and then an aggressive rise to 15-16kHz. However, the amplitude of 15-16kHz is not high relative to the lower-treble. So while it's fairly noticeable in a sine sweep, the EVO generally comes off lacking air. Not a bad tuning overall, but I think some of Etymotic's other stuff has the EVO beat in this department.

For technicalities though, the EVO is probably the best of its brethren. It handily out-resolves my ER2XR and sounded about par with the Moondrop Blessing 2 - for resolution at least - from a brief comparison. Imaging is a small step forward from the other Etymotic IEMs; otherwise, the EVO seems to maintain the compressed center-image (therefore, lack of depth) that I noted on the ER3XR and ER4XR. Surprisingly, I want to say the EVO has pretty good dynamic contrast. It doesn't sound as flat as the ER4XR does from memory. If you're sensitive to BA timbre, you'll want to avoid the EVO. It's got quite a lot of grit.

Good stuff overall, I think. Whether the EVO's $500 solid is more up for debate, as the market is just so competitive these days. I'll refrain from dropping a score for now to avoid shell-shocking any new readers to the thread, but I think most can guess where I'd place it.
Amazing first impressions. Really appreciate it. Thank you for sharing :)
 
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Jun 14, 2021 at 5:34 PM Post #752 of 3,716
Unfortunately, the bird continues to fly outside my grasp. So frustrating not being able to hear this thing, haha. Nobody I know in SG or SK has heard it either which is perplexing given that they're IEM hotspots.
There is 2 birds,
peacefully making a nest in SG,
for about a week now, 😉
 
Jun 14, 2021 at 6:39 PM Post #753 of 3,716
I get the feeling it’s going to be a busy week…

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Jun 16, 2021 at 12:01 AM Post #755 of 3,716

My Thoughts on Macro-dynamics​


Here's a fun audiophile buzzword: macro-dynamics. I'm sure some have come across the word in my writing before. But if you've ever wondered what I'm talking about, or why I think this is such an important aspect of sound reproduction, then this post is for you. As a disclaimer, please don't consider this an authoritative post on the topic. This is simply my interpretation of what I'm hearing based on personal experience and what I've read.

First, let's establish what "dynamics” are in music. I often see this word mistaken for the equivalent of how hard a transducer slams (or just thrown around as some sort of catch-all term for bass); however, the word really has a quite different meaning! Dynamics are the variations in loudness in a given track. It’s probably no more complicated than what you’re already thinking. A "dynamic swing" is simply a transition between a decibel peak (loud section) and valley (quiet section), or vice versa. Then as the prefix "macro" implies, macro-dynamics are large-scale swings. They encompass a song exploding into loudness or suddenly shifting into a quiet section; of course, these decibel shifts can also occur more gradually (crescendo vs. decrescendo). On the other hand, micro-dynamics are more intimate swings, so the nuance of individual instrument lines and, say, vocal inflections. I won’t be covering micro-dynamics further in this post, as that's a post for another time.

Thus, we've established a foundation for what macro-dynamics are. More specifically, though, macro-dynamics can be further broken down into two subsets to my ears: contrast and weight.

Dynamic contrast is likely the term most readers will be familiar with. This is simply the extent to which a transducer is able to scale the difference between a track's peak loudness and minimum amplitude. Of course, not every transducer is able to do this well. Some transducers sound like they're always on peak loudness, some skew in the opposite direction, and some don’t seem to go either way entirely! The end result is what I refer to as dynamic compression. Only a transducer that does none of the above - that is, scales decibel gradations high, low, and in the middle - can be considered to have good dynamic contrast. A pro tip if you want to find out for yourself? A hallmark of a transducer with good dynamic contrast is one where you find yourself turning up the volume on quiet sections of tracks and, conversely, turning down the volume on louder parts of tracks.

Arguably even more important, though, is the weight of a transducer. And unfortunately, this is where things get more wishy-washy and I'll exit the scope of some of the definitions I outlined earlier. That aside, this quality is most obvious if you have ever listened to a two-channel system. It encompasses not only the force with which a transducer articulates dynamic swings - what some might describe as macrodynamic punch - but also a general sense of pressure, gravity, to the cadence and background of a track. Macro-dynamic weight and the aforementioned contrast do not always go hand-in-hand. I have heard many transducers with good dynamic contrast, but poor weight, and vice versa. And of course, this will also depend on the mastering of the tracks themselves you're listening to. I find that frequency response can aid in this perception of weight - generally with more bass - but it is not mandatory. When I listen to my Genelec speakers, for example, their frequency response is near flat (and they roll-off in the bass); yet, they have a terrific sense of macrodynamic weight. I want to be clear that this sense of weight is different from a sense of attack immediacy which some associate with good macrodynamic punch; to the contrary, most faster transducers I’ve heard do not do this quality well. Nor is it the same as "note-weight," the thickness or thinness of notes. Nowadays, weight tends to be the more important (and more difficult to describe) of the two metrics for me.

Speaking of which, why should macro-dynamics matter to you? Well, if you can't hear dynamics to start with, then I wouldn't worry about it. And I don't say this to be patronizing! I genuinely think it saves you a lot of hassle. But I think most people can start to pick up on this stuff given close listening. It's definitely something that I've gotten better at discerning over time. And I think for many listeners, macro-dynamics are what dictate engagement factor. When macro-dynamics have been done justice, drops seem to hit harder, the chorus is imbued with more emotion, and generally, you find yourself on the edge of your seat for what will come next in a song. Sure, it's a cliche, but music sounds alive. On the opposite end of the spectrum, what if you just want to kick back and relax? That's (one heck of) an easier requisite to meet; nonetheless, you again see the importance of macro-dynamics (rather, lack thereof, in this instance).

Overall, I hope this lends some more background to a term that I use frequently in my writing, and thanks for reading another so-called "philosophy" post from yours truly.
 
Jun 16, 2021 at 1:13 AM Post #756 of 3,716
Kudos to @Precogvision for this stream of thought. And for helping me realize that I sit more on the micro dynamics side of the gap than the macro.

Generally from your reviews, it seems that lot of gear does the contrasting quite well, but weighting seems to be the harder one to nail.

I've definitely find myself wanting to adjust the volume through the tracks with what I have in my collection, but I usually have them at a middle volume because I'm lazy.

On the other hand, anything with a tad more fineese in the weighting department does tend to cause fatigue for me and venting in the form of Apex/Atom/ DD vents end up being a necessity.
 
Jun 16, 2021 at 4:57 AM Post #757 of 3,716
Kudos to @Precogvision for this stream of thought. And for helping me realize that I sit more on the micro dynamics side of the gap than the macro.

Generally from your reviews, it seems that lot of gear does the contrasting quite well, but weighting seems to be the harder one to nail.

I've definitely find myself wanting to adjust the volume through the tracks with what I have in my collection, but I usually have them at a middle volume because I'm lazy.

On the other hand, anything with a tad more fineese in the weighting department does tend to cause fatigue for me and venting in the form of Apex/Atom/ DD vents end up being a necessity.
Great, all I need is one more reason to by another amp or DAC to case macro dynamics perfection. Thanks for that @Precogvision :money_mouth:
 
Jun 16, 2021 at 7:55 AM Post #758 of 3,716
I think I'm more of a micro dynamics person. Shamefully, for many years I've often preferred turning on volume normalization on windows haha. Reason being I can hear the softer notes from vocals more clearly without getting blasted when they start to belt. I think getting the detail out of the small vocal inflexions is more important to me than macrodynamic contrast.
However, I've come to appreciate macro dynamics more with good speakers (just 305p,but I'd imagine it can get even better with other speakers) and U12T.
 
Jun 16, 2021 at 8:48 AM Post #759 of 3,716
I think I'm more of a micro dynamics person. Shamefully, for many years I've often preferred turning on volume normalization on windows haha. Reason being I can hear the softer notes from vocals more clearly without getting blasted when they start to belt. I think getting the detail out of the small vocal inflexions is more important to me than macrodynamic contrast.
However, I've come to appreciate macro dynamics more with good speakers (just 305p,but I'd imagine it can get even better with other speakers) and U12T.
Hey, turning on volume normalisation will ****ed up a lot... The compression is too substantial with that enabled.
 
Jun 17, 2021 at 7:57 PM Post #761 of 3,716
I enjoy second-guessing myself and listening for a micron of a difference in sound for hours on end, so here’s a run-through of some ABX tests I did recently. I also tested 16-bit FLAC vs. 24-bit FLAC with some interesting results. You can watch the video to see what they were.



Still, I walked away with the same conclusion. I can hear a difference if I really listen for it (and the stars align), but at the end of the day it’s mostly FOMO for me. I also talk a bit about why performing well on tests like these is so difficult.
 
Jun 20, 2021 at 1:08 AM Post #763 of 3,716
Hi precogvision!
Any update on the ve7 review?

Hey, I'm sorry to say I had to send it back due to a channel imbalance.

https://precog.squig.link/?share=Vision_Ears_VE7

The left-side sounded considerably darker to me, and it was skewing the center image. Hopefully, a replacement will be on its way soon. From what I could tell, it sounded pretty similar to the VE8. Slightly better extension than the VE8 on the side that was working properly, but still not superbly extended.
 
Jun 20, 2021 at 1:23 AM Post #764 of 3,716
Hey, I'm sorry to say I had to send it back due to a channel imbalance.

https://precog.squig.link/?share=Vision_Ears_VE7

The left-side sounded considerably darker to me, and it was skewing the center image. Hopefully, a replacement will be on its way soon. From what I could tell, it sounded pretty similar to the VE8. Slightly better extension than the VE8 on the side that was working properly, but still not superbly extended.
thats unfortunate
I see what you mean by sounds similar to the ve8
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did the ve7 solve the sibilance issues you had with the ve8? (I think you mentioned it on reddit)
 

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