Please Help To Choose Monitoring Headphones

Dec 27, 2009 at 3:33 AM Post #16 of 40
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Originally Posted by lejaz /img/forum/go_quote.gif
If you ever decide to part with one of your dt48's shoot me a PM! Have you heard the k70X? If so, do you feel the ones you mentioned are more neutral/uncolored? I'm asking because I was thinking of upgrading from the 240DF to the 701 if the 701 is better... more accurate/neutral. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the other way around, though.


The 701 have a little coloration, & are not flat.. The ones I listed were never made for the public or your average headphone consumer.. If you are looking for flat, & uncolored, the 701 would be more of a downgrade compared to your 240DF.. Due to the overly manufactured sound stage, I can't call them all that accurate, (everything sounds large on these headphones, even small assembles & quartets) but they are good headphones in general..
 
Dec 27, 2009 at 4:00 AM Post #17 of 40
Thank you guys a lot! Thank you Acix!
I did some research. Now I'm looking at just 2 headphones - AKG K702 and Shure SRH840
which one should I go for? I ask because K702 is open and SRH840 is closed. Not sure what is better for more accurate monitoring.
AKG K702 cost now 265$ (original price was 540$)
Shure SRH840 cost now 180$ (original price was 240$)
Sennheiser HD 800 cost 1500$??!! What???!! For headphones?! I can buy a LED tv for that money lolz
 
Dec 27, 2009 at 4:30 AM Post #18 of 40
Just ordered the AKG K702 from eBay. Couldn't wait for more replies
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Just fell in love with their design, reviews and awards. THANK YOU VERY MUCH Acix!
Merry Christmas All!!
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Dec 27, 2009 at 5:51 AM Post #20 of 40
Just don't expect magic anything from those AKG702's unless you have a lot of power to drive them. Those 700's sound BAD if they don't have enough power behind them.... my humble opinion....
 
Dec 27, 2009 at 6:10 AM Post #21 of 40
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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The 701 have a little coloration, & are not flat.. The ones I listed were never made for the public or your average headphone consumer.. If you are looking for flat, & uncolored, the 701 would be more of a downgrade compared to your 240DF.. Due to the overly manufactured sound stage, I can't call them all that accurate, (everything sounds large on these headphones, even small assembles & quartets) but they are good headphones in general..


I had a feeling you might say that. I'm using the 240DF for the main mixing duties on my CD right now, so I'll most likely stick with it. Nothing else I've heard can really compare...including several headphones that are considered 'flat' studio monitors.
 
Dec 27, 2009 at 3:28 PM Post #22 of 40
I use that mixer - Soundcraft - [Products]
is it enough for K702 or I need an extra amp?!
Also did some further research and found out that people tend to say that K702 are thin on the bass, is this true? Or is it because they are flat and don't color the low end?
Also there was a comparison between K702 and Shure SRH840 and it seems that SRH840 is the same as K702 in sound, but also have more dynamics and more low end. Please make things clear here guys
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Dec 27, 2009 at 3:34 PM Post #23 of 40
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Originally Posted by ps1Locybe /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Merry Christmas All
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I am looking for monitoring headphones that have flat frequency response, detailed accurate sound, good comfort and are trusty, so I don't get any surprises when finalising my mixdowns on studio monitors. I use Sony MDR-7506 now. Want to upgrade.
Here's the list of the headphones I want to choose from:

Beyerdynamic DT 990
Pioneer HDJ-2000
Sennheiser HD 380 PRO
Shure SRH840
Sony MDR7509HD

Please help!
Thank you!



Few of those are anywhere near neutral; most are bass biased, like the 990, 380 and anything with a DJ in the model number. And too much bas apparently doesn't help with monitoring. I suggest checking out the DT250 80ohm.

Ahh, too late. Listen to spinner, those AKGs need serious ampage - their cost doesn't stop at the phones alone, they are so far from plug n play it's not funny. There are people on here running 701/2 from portable players and/or $200 amps, and these people are wasting their money on these phones, but they think they're great because they sound better than $50 Sony's.

Also, your OP says you want flat for monitoring, but you're now asking if the AKG are thin on bass
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I'm no producer, but surely too much bottom end from a phone is just what you don't want. Before you ask advice, please make it clear exactly what you want, and it you don't know, ask.
 
Dec 27, 2009 at 4:00 PM Post #24 of 40
you're right Drubbing
but what I meant was that you want a FLAT frequency response when making music. And if there's a hole in the low end, then it also means that it's not FLAT.
And that's why I'm asking.
 
Dec 27, 2009 at 4:53 PM Post #26 of 40
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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice /img/forum/go_quote.gif
If these [240DF] were so important for their profession, why were discontinued ? ...


For the same reason Senn discontinued the Orpheus.

Engineers and musicians create; accountants decide.
 
Dec 27, 2009 at 5:19 PM Post #27 of 40
A used k240M or DF from ebay with a $200 amp would be a cheaper option than the k701 with a suitable amp. You can find a used 240M on ebay just about every day of the year. I think the 240DF is probably more detailed and transparent, but it needs a decent amp to bring out the bass(FWIR) Both are supposed to be very 'neutral' otherwise. The 55ohm 240S is not a good choice IMO. It's not in the same league with the 240DF. Just my $.02
 
Dec 27, 2009 at 5:33 PM Post #28 of 40
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Originally Posted by ps1Locybe /img/forum/go_quote.gif
thanks for replies guys
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Captain 73, the Shure SRH840 is what I want, but if there's better option in almost the same price range then I will regret if I will discover that later
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I'm too drunk right now, going out. Will check K702 later
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This is the issue I have on the Bose bashing threads. They'll always be something better, but it's down to you and your ears. IMHO although my 'best' headphones are the HD650's, the Shure 840's are the best 'Studio' headphones i've come across. Very flat and boring which is not what I want right now, however if I was in the mood for them, I'd choose nothing else.

Dare I go against the suggestion from Acix but in this case, if its "studio use' or 'studio sound' you want, The K701's or the HD's wouldn't be my first thought.

So to cap, it's a choice of "commercial headphones' which is the phase I’m going through right now, or .... 'Studio headphones'.

As for the Beyer fans, I've just fallen head-over-heals in love with the Beyer DT990 pro, which are on my shopping list. I haven't heard any of the Beyer suggestions granted, but the DT990's are superbly detailed, but again, for studio use, I’d go with the Shure's.

I hope I haven't put anyone’s nose out.
 
Dec 27, 2009 at 6:08 PM Post #29 of 40
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Look at the frequency response of K702. OMG!!!
It's clear that SRH840 are coloring the low end by 10db! and in the upper mids 8-10Khz by 6db! and the curve is uncontrolled on the neighbour frequencies.
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Now look at Sennheiser HD800 which cost 1500$!!! And they also lose to AKG K702 which cost 6 times cheaper! Look at the hole in 1-5Khz...
Perfect frequency response in 40-10.000Hz region??!!! IS THIS F#CKING TRUE???!!!
I don't think anything else needs to be said about what headphones are the best - AKG K702. Thank you again Acix, my friend
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All the trolls can suck my lollipop now.
 
Dec 27, 2009 at 6:31 PM Post #30 of 40
There's been like a million posts explaining why you shouldn't count on the accuracy of those freq. graphs. But, still, lots of folks think the 701 is one of the most 'neutral' headphones, graph or no graph. You'll surely need a decent amp though.
 

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