- Feb 19, 2013
Interesting analogies. Consider following
- Atmospheric O2 content decreases with elevation. Its a fact which can be calculated/backed mathematically and therefore cant be disputed at scientific level. Yes, some people are able to scale everest without supplemental O2 while others (seemingly very fit) succumb to pulmonary edema etc. Point - we all have different constitutions. Same parameters impact us differently
- Temperature is a measurable variable and cant be disputed either, however someone living in Hokkaido or Alaska may find 15 degrees quite pleasent compared to a person who has spent life close to Equator. Heck, my wife sometimes complains 25 degrees being cold for her. Point - X degrees is X degrees but you don't need to look a temperature gauge to determine you are comfortable or not, don't you?
- Speed is also measurable but being riding motorcycle for quite a few years I can tell you one thing - 100kph on a 1000cc bike doesn't feel the same as 100kph on a 250 cc bike. You feel the stress and speed much earlier on smaller bore engine. That doesn't mean you cant enjoy motorcycling on lower cc motorcycles. Ever seen the bunch of people riding pocket bikes on mountain roads? trust me mate, it is sometimes more fun than riding a 1000cc on the same roads.
Lastly when you are riding, you don't look at speedometer to have to get the 'thrill'
I don't think you are someone who is trying to push hard measurement on others so apologies if my post comes as inflammatory. I am just stating that having fun in a hobby isnt necessarily tied with specs of the instrument associated with that hobby. Personally I have no issues if people want to use specs and charts to decide their purchase and enjoy it. I just want it to be pushed on my face (again, I am not saying you are doing but I do see some posts which are fixated on charts to the point they outright discount this headphone). In short - we respect you/you respect us
Completely off-topic but since we drifted to speed and motorcycles, enjoy some scenery from Japan and Korea -> www.riachan.com/wordpress
i'm glad you acknowledge that i'm not pushing measurements on to others. i also deliberately avoid using analogies as i regard them as inherently flawed, but i made an exception here to provide some examples of why dismissing headphone measurements on the grounds that they don't align with someone's subjective perception and personal preference, is kinda missing the point of them. i also suggested that headphone measurements should be regarded as indicative rather than absolute.
your analogies are also interesting but they're really just more examples of how we are all different, and that our subjective experiences can diverge from objective standards and measurements. point - they don't have to align with them as i also said in an earlier post, but that doesn't make them invalid, useless or irrelevant, as one person in particular here has been pushing... hard.
i don't think that anyone here is advocating that having fun in this hobby is "necessarily tied with specs of the instrument associated with that hobby" - i'm certainly not. however, there are folks involved in this hobby who happen to derive fun from delving into the more technical aspects of it. i think this hobby is big enough to include them too don't you?
i regard subjective impressions and headphone measurements as complementary, which is why i view your "we respect you/you respect us" sentiment as completely unnecessary. i'm also not in the habit of pushing specs into anyone's face, including yours. however, i'm not going to avoid referring to an fr chart in the midst of a subjective debate over whether a can has a treble peak or lacks sub-bass for example, when i think that an objective data point is precisely what is missing from it. then again, this is the age of "truthiness".