I would need to follow a lot of threads and would be quite busy reading up on them, if I would follow all the ones with headphones I heard in the past, even the ones with the low post count However as an acoustical engineer I guess it's part of the job then. Quote: Maybe the sound signature of the Pioneer simply wasn't to your liking and didn't match the expectations you have towards a headphone. As someone who is into stats, I can understand that the unique sound signature might not have been to your liking. And it doesn't have to be. However sarcasm on the popularity on the headphone and negative comments on the pricing doesn't have to be in that case as well I wouldn't call it an agenda, but the sarcasm about this headphone in the post I mentioned is a typical indication of the behaviour I mentioned before. The behaviour which people tend to fall for when people start comparing their toys and different opinions collide. I don't come from the same "audiophile" history, but I have a social history, knowing the dynamics in discussions and the behaviour of people discussing I personally don't dislike the sound of the stats, actually I like it very much. I can even admit that from the sound quality they are better than dynamics and therefore also better as the Pioneer, however it's not what I consider an interesting headphone. I am more into headphones which are edgy somehow, but reproduce sound on a high level at the same time. Headphones which bring their own character caused by their little "problems". I am always open to second opinions or second encounters with headphones I heard before. However I agree with you that this is not the place to discuss Stax amps. I just mentioned it to show you that a rating on the high price of the Pioneer, coming from someone who really spends a lot of money for the last few percent always looks a little bit strange given your history in this thread. For sure it is, therefore it is and it will never be everyone's darling, but that's exactly what makes this headphone so unique and in the end also worth the money.