[aertus]

sure, but its a testimony of one person who experienced all three where he is favoring the $120 IEM over the 1000$ one regardless of 'league'. I don't buy that the Pioneers sound anywhere close to the Elears too or that it is better than ie800. I guess it just demonstrates how much of a bang-for-the-buck are the pioneers that people resort to "dumb" comparisons. As always, take it with a grain of salt.

yeah i feel like at this point you can't go wrong with the pioneers since almost everyone is really highly praising them. i hope its not one of those where its overrated. at 100 dollar price tag there is definitely strong competition but are there any that even sound better. I feel like there are some Sony pairs I know are better but forgot.

yeah the comparison doesn't make sense it would make sense to compare them with 100 dollar close to their price tag.

Best in the world, lol. I almost jumped on the Elear. Glad I didn't after watching Zeos review. Still want to hear it though lol

Idk about the elear but i know the utopias are the best or one of the best. Have you seen sony's z1r headphones?

Zeos pans some great headphones and lauds some real lemons, I take him with an extremely large pinch of salt

at this point it seems its very subjective. I trust people who have lots of experience with equipment and music production the most. With that said, i resort to whathifi, headfi, and other youtubers. IF tehre is a product thats highly praised throughout all 3 i know it must be pretty damn good.

Right now Rha m750, Sony ex650ap or the 750ap, Senheiser in ear momentum, Focal Sphear, Pioneer CH9 are definitely high on my list. IF anyone knows anything thats around 100 dollars or less thats really good let me know im looking for the perfect pair for 100 dollars. There is also 1more driver but i don't trust chinese brands.

 

[aertus]

okay there is one more pair of earphones that I see are highly rated. the Bowers and wilkings c5 series 2. anyone know about these pair and how they compare to the pioneers?

 

[Lurk650]

Zeos pans some great headphones and lauds some real lemons, I take him with an extremely large pinch of salt

Oh most definitely...the price even with the $300 off by trading in an old pair of headphones was still out of my budget, maybe if I hadn't already got the CA Lyra II

 

[mykeldg]

Heyy i like zeos reviews. Hes definitely a no nonesense type reviewer. His reviews usually comes with sound demo, and i can definitely say his impressions atleast most of the time, does agree with the sound demo.(like how the elears have a shallow soundstage and crossfeedish stereo imaging)

 

[HungryPanda]

I'm subscribed to his you tube feed and like his reviews but he sure listens to music too loud and a lot of bad music at that

 

[chickenmoon]

sure, but its a testimony of one person who experienced all three where he is favoring the $120 IEM over the 1000$ one regardless of 'league'. I don't buy that the Pioneers sound anywhere close to the Elears too or that it is better than ie800. I guess it just demonstrates how much of a bang-for-the-buck are the pioneers that people resort to "dumb" comparisons. As always, take it with a grain of salt.

The IE800 are overrated IMO and if you don't like its sound signature you'll find that you'll rate many current £100 or below IEMs as better. Hell, I like my Samsung/AKG EO-IG955 I buy for £6 better than the IE800 which costs one hundred times more!!! It's discussable whether the EO-IG955 or the CH9T are technically inferior to the IE800 but I can tell that if they are it's not by very much so the criteria that comes first is the tonal balance as they have all excellent clarity.

@aertus: You can strike the Sony EX650 off your list as they aren't on level at all IMO and you might want to check Onkyo E700 too. If you're looking for something with strong bass the NAD VISO HP20 are very nice.

 

[chickenmoon]

okay there is one more pair of earphones that I see are highly rated. the Bowers and wilkings c5 series 2. anyone know about these pair and how they compare to the pioneers?

They are good enough to compete IMO but are bass heavy (I like the NAD HP20 better for a bassy one at a similar price point).

 

[aertus]

The IE800 are overrated IMO and if you don't like its sound signature you'll find that you'll rate many current £100 or below IEMs as better. Hell, I like my Samsung/AKG EO-IG955 I buy for £6 better than the IE800 which costs one hundred times more!!! It's discussable whether the EO-IG955 or the CH9T are technically inferior to the IE800 but I can tell that if they are it's not by very much so the criteria that comes first is the tonal balance as they have all excellent clarity.

@aertus: You can strike the Sony EX650 off your list as they aren't on level at all IMO and you might want to check Onkyo E700 too. If you're looking for something with strong bass the NAD VISO HP20 are very nice.

They are good enough to compete IMO but are bass heavy (I like the NAD HP20 better for a bassy one at a similar price point).

for the ex650 i went by whathifis high regard for them. though maybe they are a bit outdated by now since they were released a few years ago i dont even know what sony's flagship is anymore lol.

i dont like too much i definitely prefer balanced sound. what you think are like the top earphones in this price range?

 

[chickenmoon]

To me the EX650 sound muddy and underdetailed compared to everything else I've mentioned in this thread and very much so if i may add and whatever WhatHiFi says must always be taken with a grain of salt IMO.

I think the CH9T is great, with probably one of the most agreeable tonal balance for me but unfortunately I don't like its form factor so it gets less listening time than other ones in the end, frankly at the moment I can't take the EO-IG955 off my ears so that would be my top pick right now but tomorrow I may prefer the B&0 H3 or the Meze 11 Neo for their more relaxed sound signature even though, while still very clear sounding, they might be slightly less detailed than the others I have mentioned.

 

[zeroing in]

These pioneers are the best iems I have ever heard, other than THE painful ear fit, which hopefully new tips will solve i just havnt ordered any yet.

 

[zeroing in]

Once i bought some monster turbine coppers and I paid close to $300 for those and when i listen now they are horrible.

 

[Slater]

Once i bought some monster turbine coppers and I paid close to $300 for those and when i listen now they are horrible.

I think we've all been there at one point or another lol

 

[aertus]

To me the EX650 sound muddy and underdetailed compared to everything else I've mentioned in this thread and very much so if i may add and whatever WhatHiFi says must always be taken with a grain of salt IMO.

I think the CH9T is great, with probably one of the most agreeable tonal balance for me but unfortunately I don't like its form factor so it gets less listening time than other ones in the end, frankly at the moment I can't take the EO-IG955 off my ears so that would be my top pick right now but tomorrow I may prefer the B&0 H3 or the Meze 11 Neo for their more relaxed sound signature even though, while still very clear sounding, they might be slightly less detailed than the others I have mentioned.

are those eo akg the ones that come with samsung phones?

the B&O and meze11 look very nice and now i must add them to my list. the B&O are slightly above my budget though since they are 50 dollars more than what im willing to spend. im guessing the second generation are better sounding.

 

[chickenmoon]

are those eo akg the ones that come with samsung phones?

the B&O and meze11 look very nice and now i must add them to my list. the B&O are slightly above my budget though since they are 50 dollars more than what im willing to spend. im guessing the second generation are better sounding.

Presumably, the EO-IG955 I bought are the same as those that come with the S8. I buy them from an eBay seller so can't be 100% sure. What is sure however is that they have superb sound quality and at the £6 I get them for, their price to performance ratio is largely above everything else I've got.

From what I've read there should be no difference in sound between B&O H3 first and second gen but not having tried both I cannot say for sure, mine are those LG gave away a while back (HSS-F800) and I don't know what generation they are anyway. You can find those for quite cheap on eBay sometimes.

Sorry for drifting a bit of-topic guys.

 

[Toretoshark]

I've read that normal mmx cable does not fit and which tips do you recommend , I normally preffer foam ones and the ones I have does not fit too so this Pioneer have 7mm diameter

Thank you