[Masonjar]

that GRP stuff has the musical consistency of angel food cake. I've always thought that Pat Metheney's music had a lot more substance to it.

my opinion..

-jar

 

[minimus]

Check out Explosions in the Sky "Earth is Not A Cold Dead Place". They are labeled as "post-rock" but this album is very good and reminds me quite a lot of Pat Metheny Group's "Last Train Home".

 

[Spyro]

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Originally Posted by rlanger /img/forum/go_quote.gif I have a hard time thinking of Pat Metheny as "Smooth Jazz". I mean, compositionally, he and Mays are so far advanced from anything I've heard that would be considered smooth jazz. Maybe it's just the instrumentation that saddles PMG with that label? I don't know.

Yea, that's kind of a head scratcher. Smooth Jazz has a big emphasis on simple programmed drum loops and almost a R & B slant. While some of PMG's slower passages might sound new-ageish, never "smooth jazz'ish". Big difference.

I gotta disgaree on the Rittenour "Smoke and Mirrors" cd mentioned above. I purchased it and it might be my biggest dissapointment of the year. The first track is okay and after that it is a big steamy pile of smooth jazz manure.

 

[Masonjar]

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Originally Posted by minimus /img/forum/go_quote.gif Check out Explosions in the Sky "Earth is Not A Cold Dead Place". They are labeled as "post-rock" but this album is very good and reminds me quite a lot of Pat Metheny Group's "Last Train Home".

Wow, I can honstly say I would have never made that connection..

 

[Sovkiller]

Allan Holdsworth, Mike Stern, Stanley Jordan, even while not so quiet sometimes but definitelly three more of the giants...

 

[rlanger]

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Originally Posted by bhjazz /img/forum/go_quote.gif Y'know, I was circling back around and was going to say the same thing. If you kindof lump PMG in with smooth jazz, then take in a few listens of First Circle (the tune) or To The End of the World to change your mind. These are very complex tunes that just defy smooth jazz standards.

To The End of The World is one of my favourtite PMG tunes. Pat's synth solo on that track is just so beautiful it gives me shivers almost everytime I listen to it.

As for First Circle... yeah, you don't hear too many smooth jazz tunes in 11/8 time (or is it 1 bar of 5/8 and 1 bar of 6/8)!

 

[Spyro]

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Originally Posted by rlanger /img/forum/go_quote.gif As for First Circle... yeah, you don't hear too many smooth jazz tunes in 11/8 time (or is it 1 bar of 5/8 and 1 bar of 6/8)!

Yeah baby....

Kind of like "5-5-7" from Letter From Home.

 

[Clony]

ohh

Cant really say i have found what i was looking for..

i find the Pat Metheny Group - The Way Up album much more leaning to the fusion/easylistening/newage/pop/cross-over type of style.

Don't really know is this is the right thing to say about their style whit the The Way Up album..

 

[Clony]

if i could only find more songs like this on that i absolutely love!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_5-pBkwyUxc

 

[Spyro]

Try Al Dimeola's "Orange and Blue" release. I have many Dimeola cd's but this one is about as close as you can get (to PMG) from anything else I have heard. Very layered, texured, complex arrangements in the same vein as PMG.

Also, as I think someone mentioned earlier, check out the rest of the PMG library. Secret Story is fabulous, Speaking of Now, Letter From Home, We Live Here. Do you have those?

 

[rlanger]

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Originally Posted by Clony /img/forum/go_quote.gif if i could only find more songs like this on that i absolutely love! http://youtube.com/watch?v=_5-pBkwyUxc

If you like that, you will probably really enjoy the soundtrack that Pat did for the movie Map of the World.

 

[Spyro]

X2 on "Map of the World"

Very similar to the video above.