[xenithon]

I haven’t heard the Bird but agree that the one area the Isabellae might fall short is in staging, which is fairly intimate.

Thanks for saving my wallet from trying these. Intimate stage is one of my pet peeves on any transducer.

I suspect it is all relative. Would really like to see an Isa / IE900 direct comparison as that would help set some context, and both are far closer together in terms of being musically tuned single DD's.

If I do a DTB (direct-to-bird) comparison, the IE900 is also fairly intimate and markedly less wide and deep.

 

[xenithon]

Out of interest, has anyone done any more cable rolling?

Apart from the Orpheus, there does not seem to be many (or any) alternative cable pairings providing similar to stock performance. I ask primarily due to looking for ergonomic improvements, without major sacrifices in the sound.

 

[aaf evo]

Out of interest, has anyone done any more cable rolling?

Apart from the Orpheus, there does not seem to be many (or any) alternative cable pairings providing similar to stock performance. I ask primarily due to looking for ergonomic improvements, without major sacrifices in the sound.

Paging @twister6 lol

Also if anyone is considering going for a custom faceplate, seriously only do it if you can hang onto your Traillii in the mean time. I regret it already and I’m like one and a half weeks in. May not be the case for everyone but I’m missing them badly.

 

[twister6]

Out of interest, has anyone done any more cable rolling?

Apart from the Orpheus, there does not seem to be many (or any) alternative cable pairings providing similar to stock performance. I ask primarily due to looking for ergonomic improvements, without major sacrifices in the sound.

You are not going to like my answer... and stock cable is in the middle:

 

[RTodd]

You are not going to like my answer... and stock cable is in the middle:

The bottom one sounds best?

 

[xenithon]

And is the top one the Aenid?

 

[twister6]

And is the top one the Aenid?

that mid-fi priced cable?

 

[xenithon]

that mid-fi priced cable?

Yes that one. Asking for a friend. With BLONs, looking for an upgrade

 

[tawmizzzz]

You are not going to like my answer... and stock cable is in the middle:

Oh lord-is it on the warmer but highly technical side like the Orphy?

 

[Kimiifrit]

You are not going to like my answer... and stock cable is in the middle:

Shouldn't the top one be the best?

 

[twister6]

Shouldn't the top one be the best?

All about the pair up synergy. With 1960 4W in the middle, the "other" two offer a different fine-tuning flavor in opposite directions.

But here is the thing. If you get 64audio or VE, as an example, you need to upgrade the cable. When you get the Bird, unless you have extra money for mega-kilo-buck investment or you are really bothered by microphonics, you are all set!

 

[Frankie D]

All about the pair up synergy. With 1960 4W in the middle, the "other" two offer a different fine-tuning flavor in opposite directions.

But here is the thing. If you get 64audio or VE, as an example, you need to upgrade the cable. When you get the Bird, unless you have extra money for mega-kilo-buck investment or you are really bothered by microphonics, you are all set!

Shouldn’t you expound a bit on the sound of the 3 cables ( Centurion, Traillii 1960 4-wire, and Orpheus)? I hear bake-off! Tks.

 

[Kimiifrit]

All about the pair up synergy. With 1960 4W in the middle, the "other" two offer a different fine-tuning flavor in opposite directions.

But here is the thing. If you get 64audio or VE, as an example, you need to upgrade the cable. When you get the Bird, unless you have extra money for mega-kilo-buck investment or you are really bothered by microphonics, you are all set!

Agreed! All my cables were originally bought for my Noir, M5 and other IEMs that I used to own.

I've tried cable rolling for the bird with Code51, Crystal dream duet and Iliad, because of the microphonics(damn it!). Unfortunately none of those could equalize the stock 1960s on the bird to my taste... So I still remain highly intrigued by the Aeneid

 

[Cactus108]

I own an LCD-X with a Gumby mjol 2 stack at home alongside my dx300 and a12t. How would you guys compare the traillis to some higher end cans? I’ve been debating if I should upgrade from the X to Utopias or just sell everything and buy the traillis. I prefer iems slightly as I’m not bound to my desk and can share the listening experience with others more easily.

 

[aaf evo]

I own an LCD-X with a Gumby mjol 2 stack at home alongside my dx300 and a12t. How would you guys compare the traillis to some higher end cans? I’ve been debating if I should upgrade from the X to Utopias or just sell everything and buy the traillis. I prefer iems slightly as I’m not bound to my desk and can share the listening experience with others more easily.

Try get a demo. At the end of the day they still aren’t headphones. Not sure selling a bunch to blind buy would be the move.