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ONKYO DP-X1 | Dual Sabre Dacs | Balanced | Sabre BTL Amp | MQA | DSD 256 | Android 5 |

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by t.r.a.n.c.e., Sep 11, 2015.
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  1. gearofwar
    I just need "FOLDER BROWSING" thing and i'm a happy man. How hard for them to make this? 
     
  2. Zenifyx
     
    How is that misinformation?
    I find it quite unsettling that you have even bothered to remove entire sentences from my original post that you quoted: - "As I have stated above, I tested it out on Youtube (which has no DSP stage) and there was indeed distortion - you may test it out yourself. The same occurs on Play Music."
     
    Now, if you would provide me with an example of a non-DSP based third party player where distortion SHOULD NOT occur, I would be more than happy to test it out.
    I believe @TheOneInYellow has, in an earlier post, even used Youtube as an example of a non-DSP based app where distortions would not occur.
    I have provided evidence to the contrary, and yet you choose to ignore it.
     
  3. gearofwar
    Onkyo DP X1 will not be successful if it hits US market at its current stage of Firmware and UI......
     
  4. TheOneInYellow

    I am kindly not going to stand down on software principles that are a core part and standard understanding of computer hardware/software interfaces, especially with digital audio converters. These are taught at many institutions.
    The only reason that I am not going into hardcore technical terms as it would be far beyond the scope of this thread and forum.
    I have been taught this, but I shall add a caveat that I no longer work in software engineering. I just retained the core principles of computing.

    I have only hypothesised in one area, how DSP apps interfacing with DP-X1 could lead to multiple audio chains.

    When we discussed this topic I asked which apps you were referring to, and you yourself did not mention YouTube but specifically DSP apps only.
    This is the first mention of YouTube.

    That I shall agree is then an issue, but others on this forum and myself do not, and have been unable, to replicate issues with 'Google Apps'. So far I have identified only a single user having these issues, and I do hope this can be resolved.
    However to imply that Onkyo needs to fix a fault you found for all users when this fault is for a fraction of user's who have not reported a problem is itself unhelpful advice.

    I tried to replicate your issue after your post, and I have no issues:
    - Restarted Onkyo DP-X1 and booted up,
    - Charging,
    - Unbalanced AKG K 712 headphones,
    - High Gain,
    - YouTube,
    - Volume set to 147,
    Conclusion? Crystal clear audio, no dropouts, no distortion.

    Did it again, following the above (restarting app etc) except changed headphones to KEF Audio M500 on-ear headphones.
    Conclusion? Same result.
     
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  5. cattlethief
    I think this thread needs to chill or better still buy the better,cooler xdp-100.
     
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  6. Peridot
     
     
    Stick to posting the pictures [​IMG]
     
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  7. Sonic Defender Contributor
    Yes, while important, these discussions are way to involved and perhaps PM discussions between the parties are better. You could come back once somebody has conclusively proven their case and then a joint statement of acceptance could be used in the thread to clarify and detail what was discovered. Glad people are passionate about things, but lets not get too carried away.
     
    @cattlethief why is the Pioneer better? I'm quite sure it has compromises that people would post about.
     
    Folder browsing seems to not be as widely supported so perhaps it is much harder to implement than it seems.
     
  8. TheOneInYellow

    I really then want Onkyo to implement such features, as they can be turned on or off or, not be used, for users who don't require them, or be used for those who do.

    I want you to be a happy camper too ^^

    Thanks for your support too in helping others dude.



    I should say that, despite the heavy topics, you are enjoying the thread as is.

    I prefer to be a crazy manic audiophile that likes (LOVES WITH ALL HIS HEART) cats and Lego and hugs everyone (fair warning, I hug everyone. You have been warned), games, books, comics, and at 29 I believe I am 7 :p

    If I do go into technical jargon (trust me, what has been written is a massively condensed, generalised, version of the topics discussed. I know, crazy, right?) I hope they are somewhat interesting to read.

    Otherwise enjoy my posts on my continued experience of the lovely DP-X1, and cats!
    InterestingOldPhotosofCats2.jpg
     
  9. Sonic Defender Contributor
    I think more people have been stating they have no problem with streaming than those who are having a problem. Why not start a running poll? I use Tidal and it is performing no differently than it does on my main computer rig so I say I have no issue with streaming so far. Next.
     
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  10. Ffenix
     
    Yeah, this is bad. My brightness control works on my DP-X1. At its lowest brightness, I can barely see anything due to glare, unless I'm in complete darkness.
     
    Sorry, I have no solutions if you tried absolutely everything, including factory reset.
     
  11. TheOneInYellow

    With the sole exceptions of the non-functioning brightness level and silly restrictive embedded album art issues, I have yet to suffer any streaming issues, crashes, damaged ports, etc etc.

    Tell a lie, I have a massive issue with the DP-X1.

    I can't stop listening to it.
    I'm screwed...


    Listening to beautiful piano work set in a softly majestic electronic etheral soundscape at the moment with my AKG K 712 headphones: Ben Lukas Boysen aka (HECQ)'s 'Gravity'.
    Truly mesmerising!

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  12. Whitigir
    We'll...I think why Zx2 works so well with 3rd party app is because it doesn't have any DAC lol...it is class D amp....the only thing it has is the DSEE HX chip and it is in total control of Sony. Some people with more knowledge can chime on, but so far I am very happy with Zx2 being jet audio , Gonemad
     
  13. TheOneInYellow

    Yes, I tried. If this issue is with me and no one else reports the same issue by Monday, I'll contact Onkyo.
    However, I have lots of portable and large battery chargers so if a new upcoming firmware update doesn't fix the issue (if indeed it requires such an update), only then will I consider sending it back to PriceJapan at my expense.
    Otherwise, when I'm out and about, Stand Alone Mode FTW!
    At home I'll keep it on charge whenever necessary or possible.
     
  14. TheOneInYellow


    That, or Sony had a slightly easier custom API that developers can code in (or, unlikely, vice versa).

    Then again, as the ZX2 cannot use hardware digital audio conversion, the ZX2 is PERFECT for third party DSP apps that use software conversions!

    Lot's of happy developers might love (or are loving) it!
     
  15. Sonic Defender Contributor
    As an aside, what DAPs have STOCK players that support folder browsing?
     
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