[sugarinthegourd]

I recently bought 650s and I wasn't crazy about them at first. They have really grown on me, but I still find the bass a bit artificially bloated. I have never heard 600s but I wonder if I wouldn't have been happier with them.

On the other hand, I'm also curious about DT-880s, K-701s, SR-225s and RS-2s.

Need to try to find some place where I can try listening to a bunch of these...

John

 

[DaNuS]

What is your source? That is an odd one. I am usually sensitive to harsh frequencies and that was why I went to the 650s. Of course this was after I had tried some Grados so I guess everything is relative.

 

[anadin]

My source is as follows:

Marantz CD 5001 OSE CD Player

Musical Fidelity X-Can v3 Headphone Amp

Black Rhodium RCA Cables

And of course the dreaded Sennheiser HD650

That bit of kit should surely make the Sennheiser HD650 sing.

 

[Zorander]

You should try the HD-650 on an SS amp (I believe the X-Can is a tube design?). Also, give the cans (and your ears/brain) to burn-in for 200 hours at least. They really take that long to burn in, just like the AKG K601/701.

 

[anadin]

When I had the HD-600's they blew me away from the start.

I am going to give the HD-650 a chance, I have not in anyway burnt them in long enough if going by all the reports.

 

[boomana]

I have both 600s and 650s, and based on my experience, the 650s are more amp dependent than the 600s, though others may disagree. I've heard the 650s with both the X-Can 2 (modded) and X-Can 3, and didn't like them with either. Though I didn't have the 600s at the time, I would have been turned off by the 650s if that had been my only experience. I love my 650s with my main home amp, but prefer the 600s with my others. Both are wonderful headphones, but if you like the 600s better, stick with them.

EDIT: though both my 650s ad 600s were bought used, so I can't fairly comment on burn-in, based on my experience with many other headphones, I remain highly skeptical of any claims that burn in would make a difference big enough to change your experience in a favorable way.

EDIT 2: if you do decide to stick with the 650s, seriously consider an aftermarket cable.

 

[cherepashka]

don/t exagerrate. if you love 600, 650 can't be TORTURE ti your ears, they not that different. try to limit your lie...

 

[audiomagnate]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherepashka /img/forum/go_quote.gif try to limit your lie...

I don't think he's lying. I think he's being brutally honest.

Anadin: Several people have asked why you just can't go back to the store and get your 600s back. Why didn't you just listen to both in the store?

 

[Hirsch]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherepashka /img/forum/go_quote.gif don/t exagerrate. if you love 600, 650 can't be TORTURE ti your ears, they not that different. try to limit your lie...

Yeah, they can be torture. In fact, if you find a sound that you like, small differences that move away from the "sweet spot" can result in disproportionate disappointment.

I'm with him, incidentally. I enjoy the sound of the HD-600, and even the HD-580, more than the HD-650. The earlier headphones seem to present a more coherent musical experience (and I've tried a several cables with each of them, as well as going both single-ended and balanced).

 

[Chri5peed]

I'll swap my 580s w/600 grills & Cardas 'smurf' cable for 'em. So you'd not be loosing out much. I'm in the UK.

 

[Zorander]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherepashka /img/forum/go_quote.gif don/t exagerrate. if you love 600, 650 can't be TORTURE ti your ears, they not that different. try to limit your lie...

x2. As owner of both phones, I know the differences are not as stark as the OP would have us believe.

 

[freeone-j]

I would try to trade them back to the store, and if that didn't work, burn them in for 2 to 3 hundred hours. What source and amp are you using?

 

[Asmo]

I couldn't stand the 650s with the stock cable, they really need a after market replacement cable to sound their best.

The 650s require a long amount of burn in, a good amp, and a replacement cable, so they do require a lot more investment, but if you were happy with the 600s, just switch back and be happy

 

[Chu]

I also went from the 650's back to the 600's. Never heard the veil with the 600's, but on the 650 it was right there in my face.

I was willing to give them more of a chance, but the ergonomics of the phones were brutal on me. They clamped tightly and pressed into that sensitive spot behind your jawbone near your ear. I just could not wear them for more then an hour.

 

[OvidiuDanut]

You cant possible judge how 650 sound like after just ~30 h of burn in... Give them at least 150h and after that tell us what happened...