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Ollo audio: Pro headphones from Slovenia

Discussion in 'Headphones (full-size)' started by Roderick, Sep 11, 2018.
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  1. Roderick
    Olloaudio is a new headphone manufacturer from Slovenia. Product that sets them apart from others is their BSE(body sound experience) system that is a tactile subwoofer pillow which helps the user to feel the bass instead of just hearing it. However now I'll be focusing only on their hps s4 headphones. These headphones were received from ollo via their endorsement program. I got a 50% discount for publishing my honest opinion on the headphones and I will receive no further compensation.

    Introduction

    Ollo Audio HPS S4 headphones

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    Price: 349e
    Speaker size: 50mm open back design
    Frequency range: 20-22kHz flat response design
    SPL: 112dB hearing threshold
    Impedance: 32ohm
    Ear cups outer diameter: 86mm
    Ear cups inner diameter: 70mm
    Ear cups material: Walnut
    Headband material: Stainless steel and Italian leather
    Ear pads size: 90mm
    Ear pads material: Acoustic foam, extra elasticity artificial leather
    Cable termination: detachable 2m long Y 2.5mm mini jack
    Connector: 3.5mm jack with adapter to 6.3mm jack
    Servicable: Every part of HPS S4 is replacable with home tools

    Gear used in this review:

    Hegel hd10
    SPL phonitor
    Topping NX1
    Audioquest dragonfly black v 1.5
    My diy PC
    OnePlus 6

    Music of various genres with Spotify premium or flac from pc. Pretty much everything from dimmu borgir to paw patrol theme song.


    After receiving the headphones allmost two months ago I've been using them as my main headphones. It took me a long long time to get a proper impression because before ollo's I had been using mostly sennheiser hd800, Grado sr325i and akg k701. All known to be bright headphones. Ollos have more of a darker tone so it was quite a change.

    Before talking more about ollo's tonality, lets take a look at the headphones.

    Build quality:

    There is no way around it. These are exceptionally well built headphones. Everything except the pads is made of wood, metal or genuine leather. Housings are handcrafted walnut. They're not polished or treated to shine. Headband arch is stainless steel, back of the housing is made of aluminium and so is the baffle/driver cover. Headband is italian leather and earpads are some sorth of fake leather with microsuede like texture. I like the the looks. It is fancy enough but also looks like a robust studio equipment. Something that is ment to be worn and used instead of just being gazed upon.

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    What I particularly like is the cup design. Instead of rings made of wood Ollo's uses a solid piece of wood in which the driver is installed. There is no seperate mounting baffle for the driver and wood part is not just a ring. I think this design will add to durability a lot. Wooden rings are known to break when the wood dries too much. I think that will never be an issue with this design. In the picture below you can see how the headphones are built and how the driver is inserted. The black ”baffle” on top of the driver is aluminium.
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    The headband is quite normal self adjusting headband. Similar to the likes of used in many AKG headphones for example. The shape looks weird in pictures but it is soft and adjusts to my head perfectly. Only thing I can fault the headband is that they have a small area underneath the band that is sown together.

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    I thought the stitch was there because the headband leather had a hole in it but according to Ollo that is how they fix the elastic inside. It does not look good but of course nobody can see it underneath there. It is a small thing but I hope they come up with a better design in the future.

    Headband arch is made of steel. It has a durable feeling to it and I don't think I could break it even if I tried. Bad thing is that the arch is highly microphonic. Microphonic is kind of an understatement...if you plug the arch while it is on your head you get ringing that lasts for 15 seconds! Not that it would affect anything on a normal listening but on principle alone one would like the housing and the headband to be silent and free of possible side noises. I asked Ollo about the headband and according to them the headband does not affect the sound quality. They had actually done measurements about it so propably I'm worried over nothing.

    Cool thing about the headband arch is you can hang them everywhere. Smallest headphone holder ever:
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    Pads look a bit cheap in contrast to other parts. They're made of artificial leather but the material is nothing like traditional pleather you get on most headphones. To me the pads feel more like microsuede than leather. I'll talk more about the pads later.

    One thing worth nothing is that as stock S4's come with red fabric cover that is there to tame the highs. Nice and easy way to tune the headphones.

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    Headphones have a dual entry Y-split 2.5mm connections with 3.5mm connector at the end.
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    Dual 2.5mm is a smart move. Getting replacement cables is easy since sennheiser hd700, oppo, velodyne, denon, audioquest etc use the same connectors. It seems to me it has become a industry standard over 3.5mm dual connectors. Cable itself is very basic. Nothing fancy. Metal plugs with vowen plastic cover on cable and rubber after the split. You can get one for 20 bucks on ebay. But it works and I'm glad cost of headphones comes from other things than from a fancy cable.

    All in all these are exceptionally well crafted headphones. Pads are not fancy and headband arch resonates sound but besides that these are one of the best built headphones I've seen regardless of price range. It's a nice mixture of luxury materials with a design suited for professional use. Rugged but beautifull.

    Comfort


    The self adjusting headband is propably the most comfortable I've ever encountered. Not that there is anything particularly wrong with the designs used by hifiman, akg or audio-technica but in my opinion Ollo is a step above. The headband looks weird when not worn but because it is so soft and bendy it perfectly adjusts to ones head shape. There is zero pressure on the top of the head.



    Clamping force is mediocre or slightly loose. I have a medium small- medium sized male head. That is no measurement, but you get what I mean. I would personally prefer a tighter fit. These don't fall off when doing some basic home choirs but If I tilt my head fast these might fall off. Luckily steel design allows users to bend the headband to their preferred grip.

    The earpads are where the problems begin. Like I mentioned before I don't really feel that earpads are on par with other design look wise. Unfortunately they're not that comfortable either. For my somewhat pointy average sized ears these are quite good but after 30 minutes or so I have to adjust them. People with larger ears will have bigger problems with these. These are no way on-ears but one might have to tuck the ears in a bit which is not ideal for comfor nor for the sound quality.

    I contacted OLLO and asked why they went with seemingly subparr earpads. They said they tested 20-30 earpads and these were the only ones that sound good enough. I believe that. I tried bunch of other pads. All velour pads are a no go definately. HM5 pleather pads sounded decent, other pleather pads collapsed soundstage or otherwise affect sound in negative way.

    The pads are not absolutely horrid but at $400 standards are quite high. However some of the competition does even worse. Onkyo a800b is less comfortable and one rarely mentions comfort and grado foam pads in a same sentence. In a way I even find Sennheiser hd800 to be less comfortable than Ollo's. Hd800 is just so huge that it feels like I have dinner plates on the side of my head.

    I hope that in the future ollo figures out how to maintain the soundquality and introduce headphones with more comfortable pads.



    Sound

    I had planned on measuring these but I just don't have the time to get to know my new measurement rig. So for the time being this is all I got. Graph from the ollo's homepage

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    According to ollo these were designed to be ”neutral and brutally honest”. I think they have achieved that goal. When I got the headphones I thought these reminded me alot of sennheiser hd600. I do not have the hd600 anymore so I asked OLLO what they think of that comparison. They said I'm not far off. According to them hd650 is closest tonally to shp s4 than any other headphone but sennheisers have slightly brighter treble. I think people who like audioquest headphones might also appreciate the ollo sound.


    That pretty much describes the soundsignature. To my ears OLLO's are very neutral and natural sounding headphones with somewhat dark tone. There is never any sibilance. That is very good thing because the dynamics these pack it could get ear piercing at times. These have a ability to sound somewhat distant on peacefull passages and when the dynamics change these attack right at you. It is really kind of spooky. It is allmost as the signature and soundstage presentation goes from laid back to in your face grado in a millisecond. However on some recordings subdued highs can be bit off a lackluster.

    These are very flat across the board which is good for someone like me who likes to listen loud. However I can't help to feel I could use a bit more energy at top. It is all there but I'd just like more sparkle and air up top. On occasion these feel kind of closed in. On the other hand I never feel that way when listening very good quality recordings. Usually unforgiving headphones are the brighter ones. Ollo's have a fresh perspective on that. For example meat loaf: bat out of hell, is far from being an audiophile approved masterpiece. I'ts a muddy album with boosted highs. Bright headphones make it sound lively but ollos just reveal the bad quality underneath. With S4's highs are more in line with the rest of the sound spectrum revealing how bad it is all done. Meat Loaf is just one example. These completely ruin a lot off my favorite music... Old Iron Maiden etc. And that is a good thing for a headphones designed for studio use. Not so good thing for using these headphones for sheer music enjoyment.


    Soundstage is mediocre in size but it is very proportionate. Everything is imaged very well in space. Many headphones have excess width with lacking debth making them sound unnatural. OLLO's have very well defines soundstage allbeit a bit small. Since these were designed for studio use I think this kind of presentation comes in handy when switching from monitors to headphones. The superstereo effect is one of the major downfalls on headphones and it makes sense to have it minimized on a headphone like this even if it has it's drawbacks. Unfortunately these are not resolving enough for good vertical positioning. I must say though that in my experience no headphones are in this price range.

    Sonically S4's biggest downfall is the bass. On one hand it is linear and well extended. Very well extended for an open back dynamic headphone. It does not have the "grip" planar's have but for a mid priced dynamic headphone it is very impressive. Unfortunately there are time I feel bass becomes a bit blurry and honky. I think it is just some particular frequency that triggers the effect because it does not seem to happen with any particular genre of music nor is it dependent on how bassy or fast the music is. It is by no means an persistent issue, just something that happens every once in a while and I found it bothering.

    Without something to compare headphones with, it is just all words without substance. So I compared Ollo's to some of the open headphones I have at the moment.

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    Ollo S4 vs Onkyo a800

    Well regarded and similarly priced onkyo's are a good headphones to compare. Both are open back and easy to drive 32ohm dynamic headphones. Onkyo's are considered by many to be an upgraded version of well known Philips Fidelio X2. Both headphones are made by Gibson so it does make sense. Onkyos are a very nice headphones indeed. However I can't help to feel that compared to Ollo's Onkyo's have somewhat distant sound. I don't mean a large soundstage with back row presentation but something that is just a bit unnatural with a800. It is kind of like sound is coming from a tunnel.

    Bass performance on both headphones is very good for open headphones but I think Ollo's are still step ahead here. On the subbass region Onkyo's start dropping quite drastically as Ollo's just keep on going.

    Onkyo's are not bright headphones but they definately have more treble presence than ollo's. I find onkyo's sound a bit unrefined up top compared to ollo's.

    For someone looking for neutral but with fun treble tilt Onkyo is a better choice but if one prefers more natural midrange and linear bass Ollo's are obviously better headphones.

    Ollo S4's vs AKG K701

    K701 can be had for 150€ these days and along with hifiman he400i I think it is propably the best bargain one can get these days. AKG's sound cleaner on midrange compared to Ollo's but they lack the natural heft Ollo's have. Particularly piano music is a lot more impressive on Ollo's. Ollo's can't match the huge soundstage of AKG's nor the detail retrival qualities. K701 is known for lacking bass and it is obvious that Ollo's have hands down better bass performance. Ollo's also sound more natural on highs, K701 tends to be bit grainy at times. I think Ollo's are step above K701 but considering the low price of K701 it depends on ones preferences if Ollo's are worth the extra money.

    Ollo s4's vs Beyerdynamic DT880 (2003)

    Considered by some to be one of the finest headphones beyerdynamic has ever produced, old 2003 version of classic dt880 is not a headphone to be neglected. It is indeed a fine headphone offering a larger soundstage than Ollo's. Beyerdynamic has a clean, clear sound and Ollo's do sound quite murky in comparison. It is quite the same as with akg 701. It is also same in a way how Ollo easily outperforms beyerdynamic in the bass department like it did with AKG's. Same goes for the midrange. Ollo's have mids that integrate to highs so well that headphones like k701 and dt880 sound kind of like two way hybrids with bad crossover implementation. Then again we have the price issue and I must say these old dt880's are no slouch when that is taken in consideration. However it is clear that Ollo s4's is the better of the two.

    Ollo S4 vs Grado sr325i (gold 50th anniversary edition)

    I'm quite of a fan of these Grado's. I've had some experience with their headphones and I don't think this old sr325i is much worse than RS2e I had couple of years ago. I never had the change to compare the two side by side but that is just the feeling I have, so take it with a grain of salt.

    Anyway... Grados are a formidable opponent to Ollo. Grados have very fun punchy bass, it is not as well extended as Ollo's but it is more fun. Also the bass on grados never gets honky like I've mentioned is the case with Ollo. 10 point's for grado!

    Both have exceptionally beautifull midrange. Presentation is different but both sound just great. Compared to akg and beyerdynamic, Grados sound more beefy, robust. Very similar to Ollo's in that regard.

    Sr325i's are often regarded as brightest off all grados. It makes them fun, in a way. However if one tries to be objective it must be said that highs on sr325i's are way over the top, ridiculous even. It is all fun, cool and exciting until you listen to Metallica: carage inc or something similar.

    Because of the excessive highs Grado's sound airy but they can't really match the soundstage of Ollo's. Width is about the same but grados have little to none soundstage debth.

    So yeah... Obviously Ollo's are the better of the two.

    Ollo S4's vs Sennheiser HD800

    This comparison does not make much sense because of the price difference but since all the headphones above were cheaper why not compare Ollo's to a more expensive one.

    It is obvious that hd800 is a step or two above ollos. HD800 sounds so clear, effortless and fast that Ollo's can't match that. Ollo's have an edge in overall tonality. HD800 is in a sense faulty headphone with it's treble peaks etc. Ollo's are more consistent and...well, neutral. Ollo's also have better bass extension. Comparing these two would be like comparing hd650 and hd800 so I won't go any further.

    Conclusion:

    Ollo S4's are headphones with exceptional build quality with some comfort issues. Neutral to the extreme soundsignature is not for a music lover looking for a fun sound presentation. Similar sound quality might be available for less $ but without the materials and craftmanship that is invested in these headphones. Ollo's have become a valuable reference headphones for me and I understand why many professionals love them.
     
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  2. Roderick
    Review on DC sound. This one is very informative. Even shows a headphone dissasembly. Reviewer did not like the resonant headband frame and would have preferred folding structure and one sided cable but other than that he thought "hps s4 are an awesome set of headphones"

     
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  3. Roderick
    This includes review also about bse pillow. He liked both the headphones and pillow. In a nutshell "
    "Everything looks great, feels great and sounds very very good." "
     
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  4. Roderick
    Another positive review.
     
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  6. Roderick
    In the review I mentioned many professionals like Ollo headphones. Since there are not much full reviews available, in the meantime here are quotations from people who use ollo headphones in studio.

    Clint Wagoner, mastering engineer working for comedy central / south park etc...

    Chris Sauer aka BK Duke



    Adam Moseley
    music producer, mixer engineer for
    U2 | Tina Turner | Beck | John Cale | Rush | Roxette | The Cure | Kiss


    Ber Quinn, Sound engineer

    Lisa Hannigan | Divine Comedy | John grant



    DJ Linus



    Sam Berdah


    The Wall Studio | Metz France


    Steven "Sugar" Harding
    Milk & Sugar | Milk & Sugar Recordings | Enormous Tunes

     
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  7. Claus-DK
    Just got a set.
    First impressions: Comfort is amazing, never felt better and I do own more than 100 other headphones (It is a rare medical condition) only thing I can think of that comes close is phillips SBCHP1000.
    I love the pads and have no issues at all.

    There is not much to write about the sound as they just do everything right.

    I like the feeling of them, wood, metal, things and screws that I actually have a tool for ! and most do..
    I love the subtle packing pizzabox, recycle paper, I like that it is not wrapped in plastic, a headphone do not need special sale box if the product is good enough, which is the case here.

    They are so good that I posted for the first time in years, I run my own forum in Denmark so not much time, for other forums.

    But they are good enough to make me post anyway.

    Amazing headphone.
     
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  8. SilverEars
    That graph though... 50 to 100 dB jump? It doesn't tell us much. We need more precise value labeling.
     
  9. Claus-DK
    Why ?
    I just put them on my head and listen, no reason to make things complicated...

    If they make me smile and tap my feet, I do not need any numbers, I need more music..:)
     
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  10. Roderick
    what 50-100db? If it is about not so informative graph I posted hit me a pm and I'll email you a file where you can check everything, distortion etc.

    I've been too busy to figure out rew but for anyone interested I can send The data.
     
  11. Markolav
    Sound tells more than thousand numbers/words. :) Being a graphwhore just ruins all the fun, you end up searching for mistakes and nothing sounds good.
     
  12. chimney189
    This headphone looks pretty cool
     
  13. SilverEars
    The vertical axis jumps from 50 to 100.

    That graph is absurd. It rises at 10k. One of the fakest lookin graph I've ever seen.
     
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  14. Claus-DK
    It looks even better lying on my table.

    Will give the Shanlin MO and Audinst Amp HP some exercise, they should match theese phones quite well.

    From the Shanlin alone it is great, but I have a feeling they will grow to giants with an decent Amp.
     
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  15. Roderick
    Whatever the case with graphs I have no trouble recommending these to people who find darker headphones most natural sounding. I for one am deeply annoyed by allmost every headphone having exta "shhzz". To my ears it is far from life like.

    There is not much impressions around yet but what is there is all positive. They have a free trial and if one's wallet can take a hit of shipping back the headphones in case unhappy then give them a spin and see for yourself :)
     
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