Obscure Chinese DAPs
Feb 21, 2019 at 11:03 PM Post #5,581 of 8,093
Today I got a really interesting surprise in! :)

A DAP with a sound that will absolutely amaze everyone!!

While I take a few photos and a video, let's play a game: Guess what company makes it? :)

I'll give you a clue, it sounds out-of-this-world good!

Zishan (Zeeshan) could be translated to moon. Is that it?
 
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Feb 22, 2019 at 3:45 AM Post #5,582 of 8,093
Hey,
Speaking of the Zishan, following the Benjie S5, I intend to buy a Zishan or Walnut V2s due to the different experience provided.
Can anyone who has experience with Zishans and Benjies let me know the difference between these? I read the Z3 should be the best but the 8h battery life is worrying me.
Thanks.
 
Feb 22, 2019 at 4:10 AM Post #5,583 of 8,093
Hey,
Speaking of the Zishan, following the Benjie S5, I intend to buy a Zishan or Walnut V2s due to the different experience provided.
Can anyone who has experience with Zishans and Benjies let me know the difference between these? I read the Z3 should be the best but the 8h battery life is worrying me.
Thanks.
Z3 with upgraded ak4493 DAC looks promising.
But only available on taobao at this stage.
Feel free to hassle Z3 stockists on AliExpress to start selling it (I did, but grew impatient and ordered on Tao)
 
Feb 22, 2019 at 4:55 PM Post #5,584 of 8,093
The three earphones mentioned in your signature are all pretty cheap budget earphones, though very good ones. Not sure I understand your point. There are some amazing IEMs coming from China at crazy good prices. There are many other forum threads on this subject.
I wouldn't consider the AS10 a budget earphone. I bought it on sale for $60 in my currency. The ES4 yes. The ZS10, maybe... I bought it on sale for $30 in my currency. I find earphones under $20 not really worth it. The reason why there are so many is pure profit.
 
Feb 22, 2019 at 4:57 PM Post #5,585 of 8,093
Z3 with upgraded ak4493 DAC looks promising.
But only available on taobao at this stage.
Feel free to hassle Z3 stockists on AliExpress to start selling it (I did, but grew impatient and ordered on Tao)
Why not just buy a DSD? However, the price is double and sometimes triple. I don't understand the price discrepancy.
 
Feb 22, 2019 at 5:00 PM Post #5,586 of 8,093
Hey,
Speaking of the Zishan, following the Benjie S5, I intend to buy a Zishan or Walnut V2s due to the different experience provided.
Can anyone who has experience with Zishans and Benjies let me know the difference between these? I read the Z3 should be the best but the 8h battery life is worrying me.
Thanks.
Stay away from Benjie. Buy a Zishan or Walnut V2S or both. People also love the DSD. The Benjie is a great experience but not as good as the others.
 
Feb 22, 2019 at 5:08 PM Post #5,587 of 8,093
Today I got a really interesting surprise in! :)

A DAP with a sound that will absolutely amaze everyone!!

While I take a few photos and a video, let's play a game: Guess what company makes it? :)

I'll give you a clue, it sounds out-of-this-world good!
The NASA Space Agency?
 
Feb 22, 2019 at 5:09 PM Post #5,588 of 8,093
Just a personal thought, but instead of getting AS10 and ZS10, getting a 150 USD - 200 USD IEM would do much much better.

Like, instead of those two, get

BGVP DM6,
iBasso IT01,
Dunu Falcon-C,
TEHNZ P4Pro

One of those ~200 USD IEMs would do one a better deal than getting two ~100USD IEMs
That's not going to happen for most people. We are not all ballers.
 
Feb 22, 2019 at 5:18 PM Post #5,589 of 8,093
Why not just buy a DSD? However, the price is double and sometimes triple. I don't understand the price discrepancy.
I do have a DSD :)
I liked AK4490 sound, but it was a bit on a darker side. Reportedly AK4493 is a bit brighter, and I have good idea how to improve the output stage (and some other bits and pieces), so looking forward to enjoy what AK4493 has to offer. Or I am simply and plainly curious :)
 
Feb 22, 2019 at 5:54 PM Post #5,590 of 8,093
Feb 23, 2019 at 9:00 AM Post #5,592 of 8,093
Hey, I haven't followed the thread in its entirety, but I've seen that the QNGEE x2 has a low output impedance. Is there a source on this?

Also, has anyone done any comparisons with it? I'm particularly interested in this, Shanling M0 and Sansa clips
 
Feb 23, 2019 at 3:23 PM Post #5,593 of 8,093
Z3 with upgraded ak4493 DAC looks promising.
But only available on taobao at this stage.
Feel free to hassle Z3 stockists on AliExpress to start selling it (I did, but grew impatient and ordered on Tao)

AK4493!?!?

200.webp


Any link to this upgraded version??

Wasnt interested with the AK4490 cause I have to much dap and dac-amp wiht it alreayd bu now: i'm IN.
 
Feb 23, 2019 at 3:38 PM Post #5,594 of 8,093
Feb 23, 2019 at 5:25 PM Post #5,595 of 8,093
From the owner:

"About the sound, I think the AK4493 Z3 has more refined sound, more details on background music, with a little bit uplifting in high. It's not a huge upgrade from the original version. So, I suggest to keep the original Z3, and no need to rush for the new version. Anyway, I feel satisfied with the AK4493 Z3, and its worth to pay the extra.''

More details and finess??? Well, this is Exactly what I miss with the AK4490. (and why im a diehard fan of ES9018 dac) I'm curious about overall clairty too. Yep, still very hooked!
 

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