So, always been a big believer of finding a solidly designed motherboard and using onboard audio when getting a new computer, rather than allocating a decent amount for a dedicated audio solution when all one needs is a clean headphone jack to listen to music. This is especially the case after I've purchased much respected "giant killers" that cost the same price as the entire mobo and still has more distortion and audible noise, while being less convenient, elegant, and has less features. If I move the front audio cable in my case by about 1 cm, I will pick up lots of noise, but I've anchored the cable in just the right position to be more silent than some ultra low noise dac/amps who claim to be a perfect pairing for the SE-864. Recently read this: https://archimago.blogspot.ca/2018/05/measurements-msi-x370-sli-plus-am4.html Kinda sad actually. A mid range motherboard can offer more than what so many audiophiles heavily swear by.