You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry. -Abraham Lincoln --A quote a head-fier from AAMML puts in his sig. Thought it's a nice quote that could give some of us here some perspective on what we need and need not do with head-fi. ---- Another year, another skeptics lounge thread locked? I think the rationale behind the "lounge" may not be entirely healthy--it seems to be a place where the gang gathers after a day at the trenches, knocking down beers in chain-fire fashion and grumbling about the bad day they had. (except you can't grumble too hard, because, well...) When we were not grumbling in the thread, we were hatching crazy ideas to "take down" the "enemy" (bigshot's (RIP) likebomb comes to mind), which is of course also frowned upon by the mods. If this is to become the next "general talk" thread of Sound Science, I would like to see neither of the above here. I think the only allowable response to posts of "egregious offenses on good audio common sense" on head-fi (or whatever you would like to call those posts against which you'd like to rally a call to arms, or something) is to respond evenly with good arguments. Any name-calling or similar sub-argumentative tactics is never allowed, whatever the other side does. But if you think about it, calling names has never won anybody an argument or drawn many people to their side. On the other hand, one could possibly win over some people with truly well-phrased arguments. Or, if the "opposition" is not truly interested in the argument (as may be the case with a true "troll"), they may instead be bored into submission / posting elsewhere. Going by the numbers, and the fact that any member of head-fi can post anywhere they dang well please, the fact that this place is called "Sound Science" obviously doesn't mean we own the joint, only that we are allowed to express our opinions relatively freely here. The thread title was written to reflect the more "intelligent" nature of the discussion I'd like to see here. If you'd like a good old lounge to grumble and knock down beers in, I suggest going elsewhere.