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Aug 21, 2006 at 3:59 AM Post #16 of 38
That was easy
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. So what does "pre-cut" mean in rockbox?
 
Aug 21, 2006 at 4:04 AM Post #17 of 38
Don't listen to anyone telling you EQ is wrong. Everyone's hearing is different, and some of us need certain frequencies amplified because of hearing loss, ****** headphones or simple preference. Just tweak it until it sounds good to you.

That said...I'd recommend buying better headphones (particularly IEMs if you're on a budget, use mainly portables, or have hearing problems), and try it without the EQ. It's annoying at first because what you're used to is volume -- it took me a while to get used to non-EQed sound because the music is quieter at higher volumes. Now, you might not necessarily like what you hear once you get used to the volume. Frankly, so what if so and so wants you to hear their music a certain way? The fun of EQing is listening to your music however you want. What's important is knowing how the musician intended it to sound so you have a baseline when you're thinking of what to amplify.
 
Aug 21, 2006 at 5:20 AM Post #18 of 38
Okay,
I will try a week of non-eq with my 650's to see if it's for my liking. When you guys switch from non-eq to eq, do you notice a "degration" of the sound?
 
Aug 21, 2006 at 6:23 AM Post #19 of 38
in the "bad old days" before headfi I used to listen to music with the bass all the way down and the treble all the way up.

These days the only EQ I really do is with my Senn 580s or AKG 240s, I drop the low end down a few DB because strong bass in headphones really hurts my ears. I am convinced that people with bad tinnutius and hearing loss have it because of bass in headphones. If I listen to the Senn 580s without EQing down the low end with bassy tracks after 2 or 3 tracks my ears are throbbing.

Now the SA5000s don't need bass EQ, they have the most accurate detailed bass I have ever heard.
 
Aug 21, 2006 at 6:41 AM Post #20 of 38
I like voice EQ once in a while for certain songs. But most of the time, I don't EQ anything except movies.
 
Aug 21, 2006 at 6:43 AM Post #21 of 38
Quote:

Originally Posted by mb3k
Okay,
I will try a week of non-eq with my 650's to see if it's for my liking. When you guys switch from non-eq to eq, do you notice a "degration" of the sound?



It depends what you use to EQ the song but sometimes I do notice a bit of degradation I think.
 
Aug 21, 2006 at 7:33 AM Post #22 of 38
Quote:

Originally Posted by mb3k
Okay,
I will try a week of non-eq with my 650's to see if it's for my liking. When you guys switch from non-eq to eq, do you notice a "degration" of the sound?



I don't notice any degredation of the sound when I eq but I perform all my eq within the digital realm with my Behringer DEQ-2496.


Happy Listening!
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Aug 21, 2006 at 9:17 PM Post #24 of 38
I used to do a classic "U" EQ before I came here. Now I only do a slight bump on the bass when listening to the ER-4P or the 325i with bowls. Generally a bump in bass causes the highs and mids to get washed out a bit, but I don't notice that at all with these phones.
 
Aug 21, 2006 at 9:59 PM Post #25 of 38
music enthusiast = EQ
audiophile = No EQ

My idea of "EQ'g" is changing out the Source, or IC, or Cans..(i.e. from balanced BDRS-2 to RS-1, or BDGS1K to HD-580)..in other words changing your front or back end to your rig, to dampen or compensate for certain effects.

The wonders for me is knowing the gear and its compatibility and mating qualities with other components..and then switching out various parts for the desired effect...very neat stuff
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This is very handy in a vinyl rig or upper end med-fi system where source is suspect to alter the sound greatly to the signal path, producing a unique interaction with a given phone. And with moderately to high priced phones, amps and other IC's come into play, as well as the desired phono stage, DAC, etc...

The point is the EQ is how you arrange your gear, and when done correctly, there is no need to "manually" adjust a dial/switch to accentuate a frequency or SL, because the system is already set up to perform this way, accordingly.
 
Aug 21, 2006 at 10:19 PM Post #26 of 38
Like someone on here said, using volume control is using an EQ, and we all do that. Music sounds different at different sound levels.
 
Aug 21, 2006 at 10:24 PM Post #27 of 38
Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiofiler
music enthusiast = EQ
audiophile = No EQ



That simple, huh? So when I'm using flats I'm an audiophile, but when I switch to bowls and I want to retain some of that bass by EQing it in I'm a music enthusiast. But wait, if I switch to lineout -> bass-heavy amp -> 325i with bowls I'm an audiophile again. Good to know.

I appreciate quality sound, but the more time I spend on these boards the more I find myself listening to headphones instead of actually listening to the music.
 
Aug 22, 2006 at 12:11 AM Post #28 of 38
I appreciate quality sound, but the more time I spend on these boards the more I find myself listening to headphones instead of actually listening to the music.[/QUOTE]

I've noticed the same thing. It was starting to happen to me, but the past few nights I've been kicking back with my HF-1s and My Morning Jacket's "It Still Moves" album and there's no way not to hear the music in that circumstance.

Regarding the EQing, Grados are fun because you can switch back and forth between flats and bowls depending on what sound is right for what album. The differences between those two pads are quite pronounced, and very much like EQing, just without the danger of any sound degradation.
 
Aug 22, 2006 at 12:38 AM Post #29 of 38
Quote:

music enthusiast = EQ
audiophile = No EQ


This is possibly correct, but for a surprising reason. If you can afford very expensive gear, and have the chance to properly balance your components, it's natural that the audiophile route might not require EQ. For those whose equipment may not be as impeccibly matched, or as costly, EQ is a perfectly acceptable option.

I'm not sure if I buy the dichotomy completely, though. There are lots of audiophiles who are music enthusiasts, and any number of enthusiasts can own and appreciate great gear.
 
Aug 22, 2006 at 1:12 AM Post #30 of 38
I personaly EQ my music b/c I like to highlight certain frequencies, I perosonaly like. I think everyone should eq their system to their liking.

Anyways...for all you who have Creative Mediasource software you should try this eq on your music:
On the EAX Console activate the Advance Eq and pick "Pop"

You don't have to listen to your music through Mediasource for this, use the one you prefer. I been using this setting for all types of music, and it pleases my ear very much.
 

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