Njoe Tjoeb
Aug 31, 2003 at 1:15 PM Post #4 of 12
lextek, I don't have any of those other CDPs you mentioned, but I can tell you that it is a pretty transparent player. I have a Linn Genki which costs about twice as much as the new tube. I will give the two a good listen through my H/P setup and post a brief comparison. Give me a day or two.
 
Aug 31, 2003 at 2:16 PM Post #5 of 12
Equipment: Linn Genki CD player, Ah! Njoe Tjoeb CD player. Both cdps were plugged into a Gilmore V2 using Kimber pbjs. HPs were Senn HD 600 with AudioArt Equinox cable. CDs were two identical home-burned compilations of Bill Frisell and Arto Lindsay (all files are .WAV, uncompressed format). They were both played in sync with one another on both cdps allowing for easy comparison by flipping the input selector switch on the Gilmore. Also the Gilmore has a mono switch so I could get a good idea of the soundstaging and also the pure, mono signal of the CDPs.

I would say the New Tube (NT) is more transparent/revealing than the Linn and it also has a wider/deeper sound-stage. The Linn sounds a little warmer, but that might be the fact that it is less transparent. I'm not sure if the word warmth in this case is another word for muffled (is it? or isn't it? not sure...). The linn does sound comparatively muffled and as a result, warmer, less bright, more mellow or laid back. The NT seems more dynamic, faster, cleaner. The NT is also reavealing to the point of difficulty. I have it in a speakered, all-tube set-up where it shines. With an HP setup, I have a feeling the NT would be a tough CDP to use (especially w/ the Gilmore). The NT reminds me of the Linn Ikemi, which I auditioned when I bought the Genki. The Ikemi was more revealing in a similar way. I have the Genki in my bedside, HP setup where I love listening to it. It is not too forward, it is detailed, but not so much so that the details crowd my head when I am listening with phones. The Njoe Tjoeb, on the other hand is in my speakered system, where the Genki's warmth tended to over-ripen an already ripe, tubey midrange. The NT is highly detailed and dynamic with a wide, holographic soundstage which seems well suited to tubes.

I know this is brief, but I wanted to post some quick impressions, if you want a more detailed review (I've never written one) I can post a comparison or something.

Hope this helps a little.

John
 
Aug 31, 2003 at 2:24 PM Post #6 of 12
John thanks for taking the time to do that. I'm still leaning toward the Jolida or MH CD25. Thanks again.
 
Sep 2, 2003 at 9:27 PM Post #7 of 12
I have one, but I can't compare it to the Jolida or the Music Hall units.

I can't think of enough nice things to say about this player. It's the first player I've enjoyed listening to with headphones. I'm a soundstaging and imaging fan, and this player delivers it even through cans.
 
Sep 2, 2003 at 11:11 PM Post #8 of 12
I've had an Ahh! Njoe Tjoeb 4000 for a little over a year and upgraded to the oversampler eight months ago. I've posted both on the player and on a DIY project I embarked upon to reduce cabinet resonances (with success) elsewhere in these forums. It's the upstairs headphone system with the AudioValve RKV MkII and smurfed HD600s or K1000s (A/K/A "tuberiffic" system). Gets listened to most nights for four or five hours. Very comfortable and satisfying. As my Ahh! 4000 sits upgraded, I think it sounds clear, musical, and analogue. It reveals small details with transparency and shows individual instruments well on complex passages. Imaging is excellent. I think my Arcam FMJ 23 is a little more revealing and possibly more subtle. Kevin at Upscale Audio has given good service and support. It's a keeper.
 
Dec 5, 2003 at 2:57 AM Post #9 of 12
Quote:

Originally posted by Old Pa
I've had an Ahh! Njoe Tjoeb 4000 for a little over a year and upgraded to the oversampler eight months ago. I've posted both on the player and on a DIY project I embarked upon to reduce cabinet resonances (with success) elsewhere in these forums.

As my Ahh! 4000 sits upgraded, I think it sounds clear, musical, and analogue. It reveals small details with transperancy and shows individual instruments well on complex passages. Imaging is excellent.
It's a keeper.


Old Pa,
what tubes are you running in the Tjoeb?
apart from the new TjoUpsampler, any other sound mods (opamps, tjoens etc?) and what, if any< other tubes have you tried?
 
Dec 7, 2003 at 1:14 AM Post #11 of 12
lextek

I have a Bat VK D5 SE 24 bit. You can PM me if you have any questions. I also have a Cary 306/200 that I can't boast enough about.
 
Jul 6, 2009 at 10:27 PM Post #12 of 12
Wondering about these players. Any thoughts? Anybody that was at the Headroom WOH tour. Were they using a BAT CD Player to feed the high end rack?
 
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