NJB3 still rules, and I'll tell you why :)
Aug 18, 2003 at 5:31 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 30

austonia

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Even with all the new models and brands of hard-drive based DAP hitting the market, the Creative Nomad Jukebox 3 still retains some _unique_ features.

1) encodes (up to) 320kbit MP3 or WAV, optical or analog
2) holds 2 removeable batteries
3) 2 line-out ports on the player itself
4) Can send files from NJB3 to NJB3 over firewire without need of a PC
5) optional IR remote
6) Firewire AND USB1.1 interface
7) strongest headphone amp available (50mw/ch)

Even the newest toys, iRiver iHP-100, Rio Karma, and Phillips HDD100, Nomad Zen NX, etc.. don't offer the above features.

It's not quite pocket size, but its the same size as a typical PCDP, easy enough to tote around in a backpack. Part of the size is used to house the two lithium batteries which give it 20+ hours of use between charges. It's not much to look at, no shiney stuff. But, it has tons of features, and it's CHEAP compared to most other DAPs.

Some other strong features :
- easily upgradable. I upped mine to 60gb.
- good sound quality
- On-the-fly playlist is integral to OS
- priced very reasonable (typically ~ $200)
- Music database from ID3 tags : list by Artist, Album, Title, Genre, Playlist
- Search function : Alphanumeric search by Artist, Album, Title, etc
- Onboard file management. Delete Artist, Album, Title, etc
- EAX Timescale : speed up or slow down a track by 50% without pitch distortion
- EAX Normalization - if many of your tracks vary wildly in volume this will correct
- Bookmark a stopping place in any track.
- many dedicated buttons
- True OFF mode (as opposed to iPod)
- speed sensitive scroller controller
- when browsing a list of Artist, Album, Titles, A and Z are wrapped so you from top of the list directly to bottom and vice versa (NOT SO ON iPOD)
- Creative Playcenter looks ugly, but works well enough. Drag and Drop loading onto the program.
- Third party software available if you want (Notmad)

What I don't like
- Titles that go offscreen do not scroll
- the selector controller could be larger and placed on the face of the unit instead of the side (IMO)
- Menu system is sometimes cumbersome and is not customizable
- Requires Creative software and drivers to load music and files. Newer players are able to act as removeable drives with drag n drop loading, and still offer an ID3 tag music database by scanning the music files from the player itself.
- the NJB3 to NJB3 transfer function is limited to sending one file at a time. So you can't batch send a whole album or artist catalogue so easy.

Also, as a side note, the headroom tote bag is a perfect match for the NJB3. It has a pouch on top that holds my Porta Corda 2 and a small hole at the bottom of the pouch for routing a mini cable to line-out jack of the NJB3.

I don't sell the NJB3 or anything, but I'm a happy owner, and thought it deserves a little attention among the newer, sexier DAPs
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Aug 18, 2003 at 5:33 AM Post #2 of 30
if you could only figure out a way to make bank doing this. you'd be set.
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Aug 18, 2003 at 5:48 AM Post #3 of 30
Maybe there will be a dapReview magazine. Hell, I saw a quilting magazine the other day for chrissake. Gotta be more peeps interested in the digital walkman. And some willing to shell out a few bucks to find out about the latest and greatest, and comparisons, reviews, etc. Gawd, that would be the life. Companies send me free toys to play with, and get paid to write about them. Like that guy over at Gear.IGN.com - I'd loooove to be him
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Aug 18, 2003 at 5:56 AM Post #4 of 30
At one point I believe there was a magazine devoted to the complicated subject of taking baths. Anything is possible.

Add "No Mac Support" to the NJB3 negatives. Too bad Creative stopped (on nearly all their products) after NJB1.
 
Aug 18, 2003 at 6:00 AM Post #5 of 30
anyone know how much money it takes to start a magazine? if i get you the venture capital you'll hire me and give me a monthly column right? i can see it now. alls i need is a catchy column title.
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Aug 18, 2003 at 11:14 AM Post #6 of 30
don't be so nostalgic austonia...
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yes...he was a good friend for more than two years.
yes...he was strong and reliable
yes...he was the beautiful dream of our long nights
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but now my old friend became too bulky, and he is seeking for a owned rest.

my heart will broke for sure, but it's destiny, it's karma...
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Aug 18, 2003 at 1:07 PM Post #7 of 30
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Originally posted by Omega
don't be so nostalgic austonia...
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yes...he was a good friend for more than two years.
yes...he was strong and reliable
yes...he was the beautiful dream of our long nights
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but now my old friend became too bulky, and he is seeking for a owned rest.

my heart will broke for sure, but it's destiny, it's karma...
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In my opinion,it's still the machine to beat.

If it had an optical out, it would be the dream machine.
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Aug 18, 2003 at 3:13 PM Post #9 of 30
A Nomad Jukebox 4 is an interesting possibility. I sent Creative customer service an email to see if anything is in the works. I would hope they retain the dual-battery configuration and focus on extra features instead of size. But I wouldn't complain about a more compact design.

Nomad 4 should have :
1) optical out
2) titles scroll if they go off the screen
3) more durable materials, less plastic
4) OGG and FLAC support
5) improved selector control
6) alarm, wake to music
7) crossfading
8) customizable menus
9) built-in RCA outputs
 
Aug 18, 2003 at 5:27 PM Post #10 of 30
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Originally posted by austonia
Maybe there will be a dapReview magazine. Hell, I saw a quilting magazine the other day for chrissake. Gotta be more peeps interested in the digital walkman. And some willing to shell out a few bucks to find out about the latest and greatest, and comparisons, reviews, etc. Gawd, that would be the life. Companies send me free toys to play with, and get paid to write about them. Like that guy over at Gear.IGN.com - I'd loooove to be him
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The problem with this is that no one wants to read about stuff like this in print, if you got websites to find info from.

I say make your website a full blown review site , kinda like www.dpreview.com for digital cameras.
 
Aug 18, 2003 at 5:45 PM Post #11 of 30
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Originally posted by stan23
The problem with this is that no one wants to read about stuff like this in print, if you got websites to find info from.

I say make your website a full blown review site , kinda like www.dpreview.com for digital cameras.


EXCELLENT POINT!!!!!

I never thought of this before. I used to read a LOT of magazines about various subjects, now with the net as vast as it is (that I've discovered) I almost never buy them. I can find it all on the net.
 
Aug 18, 2003 at 5:56 PM Post #12 of 30
Because of publishing lead times the sad fact is most *magazines* are out of date before they hit the stands. Unless general information articles are desired, the "interactive magazine" such as this group would provide much more timely news.

Still, some British magazines such as T3 (Tomorrow's, Technology, Today) cover the topics this site promotes.

Check out: http://www.t3.co.uk/

Some USA booksellers (Barnes and Noble) stock it sometimes.

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Aug 18, 2003 at 7:18 PM Post #13 of 30
I debated the NJB3 vs. iPod for a long time before I finally got the iPod. Given how much I still like my MD for portable use like exercising (iPod was purchased more as a home jukebox) I think I made the wrong choice. Especially now that I'm having problems with my firewire connection, I can't get any new music into my iPod! That wouldn't happen if I owned an NJB3.

I'll likely pick up a NJB3 or 4 if one comes out.

Since I don't plan on using it as a portable, I actually wish it was a bit bigger. I'd love it if it used a standard 3.5" hard drive. That way I could replace the drive and put a 250GB drive in it and have full wave on the drive.
 
Aug 18, 2003 at 8:06 PM Post #14 of 30
Hehe... at that point you might as well just build a mini-ITX machine and plug it in wherever you go
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I can see myself now in a couple years with a rig dedicated solely to music... It'd be mini-ITX, it'd have an external LCD, Remote Control w/LCD, the newest audiophile sound, and dual 250+ gig drives in Raid 0
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That would just plain rock.

(PS: Sorry, I'm a huge computer geek
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Aug 18, 2003 at 8:33 PM Post #15 of 30
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Originally posted by Swigger
Hehe... at that point you might as well just build a mini-ITX machine and plug it in wherever you go
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I can see myself now in a couple years with a rig dedicated solely to music... It'd be mini-ITX, it'd have an external LCD, Remote Control w/LCD, the newest audiophile sound, and dual 250+ gig drives in Raid 0
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That would just plain rock.

(PS: Sorry, I'm a huge computer geek
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That's actually what I'm interested in. What's a mini-ITX?

I did want something small like a notebook, but I hate notebook keyboards. A small form factor PC with a USB 2.0 for taking digital sound out to an external sound card and big drives are what I want.

I figure that most CD's have less than 500MB of music on them i.e. 57 minutes of music, so at 250GB you've got enough room for 500 albums. That's more than enough for my CD collection which stands at around 300 CD's. Do you have a collection that big that you'd need dual 250+ GB hard drives?
 

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