NJB3 frustration

[Gergor]

I have these problems from day one I got the NJB3:

I copy mostly classical music to my NJB3. I rip the CDs with EAC and create a .m3u playlist, compress with LAME. Then import the playlist into Creative PlayCenter, then transfer the playlist to NJB3.

For classical music, there are a lot of information attached to the MP3 files, composer names, performer names, names of the orchestra, names of the music piece, which movements, etc, etc. I guess the filenames become pretty long at times too.

Under the situation where there are a lot of information in ID3 tags and long filenames, there'd be problems transfering the playlist to NJB3. For example, I tried to transfer Rhapsody on a theme of Paganini by Rachmaninoff, it only transfered the introduction and then stopped, all the variations were left off. Sometimes, in other situation, the files are transfered but cannot be included in the playlist.

Does anyone else have the same problem? I can get around these problems by truncating the names, but it becomes ridiculous to change the name from "Rhapsody on a theme of Paganini by Rachmaninoff" to simply "Paganini by Rach".

Is it a problem with playcenter or NJB3? Import to playcenter seems to have no problem, the problem only happens during transfer to NJB3.

Any help is appreciated. Thank you!

 

[Peddler]

I'm not sure if this will do it but try Notmad trial version and see if that does it for you.

 

[Gergor]

Thank you, I'll give it a try.

So, I guess no one other than me has experienced the same problem huh?

 

[Gergor]

I tried Notmad and the same problem exists.

Finally today I found a feature on EAC that allows me to look at and edit ID3 tags, so I decided to check out the ID3 tags of files I have problem with, and the ID3 tags are all identical! Now I finally realize that the problem comes from the fact that the ID3 tag field is only 20 some characters long, and characters after the limit will be trunicated. In classical music, different movements of the same work with slightly long name will appear in the ID3 tags as identical because the movements informations are trunicated. And apparently NJB3 only identify files with the ID3 tags, so NJB3 thought I was trying to copy the same file even though they have different filenames and stopped copying. I then edited the ID3 tags to something else and it transfered without problem.

Is this a problem with EAC that trunicates long ID3 tag or is it a limitation of ID3 tag itself? I'm surprised it's not a more common problem. I guess not many classical music listener uses MP3, eh?

 

[austonia]

Keep in mind that the PlayCenter uses Version *1* ID3 tags to build the NJB3 database. EAC is usually setup to make Version *2* ID3 tags which are similiar, but separate, and more detailed. You can have both V1 and V2 tags in the same MP3. Version 1 tags are more limited and do have character limits.

Get MP3 Tag Studio (google-search it).

 

[Gergor]

Quote:

Originally posted by austonia Keep in mind that the PlayCenter uses Version *1* ID3 tags to build the NJB3 database. EAC is usually setup to make Version *2* ID3 tags which are similiar, but separate, and more detailed. You can have both V1 and V2 tags in the same MP3. Version 1 tags are more limited and do have character limits. Get MP3 Tag Studio (google-search it).

So if I use Notmad instead of Playcenter, I could use version 2 ID3 tags?