TheGame21x
1000+ Head-Fier
Normally, I love taking the side of the other guys whenever Beats sues someone but Yamaha was asking for it with that clear rip off and marketing design.
They shoud be sueing soul headphones they look just like the yamahas go to https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1280&bih=685&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=soul+headphones&btnG=#imgrc=-fTBimjzNrZnOM%3A%3B42XKAe0J3DwZUM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.maximumpc.com%252Ffiles%252Fu5033%252Fludacris_soul_bz.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.maximumpc.com%252Farticle%252Freviews%252Fsoul_electronics_sl150_headphone_review%3B911%3B1200 to see a pic
They shoud be sueing soul headphones they look just like the yamahas go to https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1280&bih=685&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=soul+headphones&btnG=#imgrc=-fTBimjzNrZnOM%3A%3B42XKAe0J3DwZUM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.maximumpc.com%252Ffiles%252Fu5033%252Fludacris_soul_bz.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.maximumpc.com%252Farticle%252Freviews%252Fsoul_electronics_sl150_headphone_review%3B911%3B1200 to see a pic
This happen when people cares more of the appearance than the sound
I guess when they sound the same, using same driver, but difference appearance, no one will care to file a lawsuit...
I had a quick listen at B&H Photo and I thought they sounded nice. My reference headphones are the V-Moda M-100s and I thought the clarity was comparable with the M-100s having an edge in detail retrieval. The 500s have a mid-bass hump, which is not surprising given their aesthetics, and the bass has plenty of slam although it's not as tight or controlled as the M-100s, but bass is definitely the defining sound frequency. The mids were forward and more pronounced than the M-100, which have been criticized for having a "laid-back" or "recessed" midrange. The last thing I'm going to comment on is its soundstage which is on par for closed circumaurals. It is noticeably not as wide was the M-100 and more of a "in your head" kind of feel.
This is just from a quick listen and I only used one song so take this with a grain of salt.
interesting of yamaha to be able to tune a punchier bass than the m100 and yet still retain a more forward mid than the m100.
It could be my source. My M-80s do the same thing. There seems to be more mid-bass "slam" on the M-80s, yet the bass doesn't extend as deep as the M-100s or is as detailed or controlled. I went back yesterday and had a bit more time to play with the Pro 500s and they have a similar sound signature to the M-100s. I was wrong about the sound stage. They are actually on par with one another. For now I say they are like M-100s with more mid-bass, more pronounced mids, and with less comfortable earcups.
It could be my source. My M-80s do the same thing. There seems to be more mid-bass "slam" on the M-80s, yet the bass doesn't extend as deep as the M-100s or is as detailed or controlled. I went back yesterday and had a bit more time to play with the Pro 500s and they have a similar sound signature to the M-100s. I was wrong about the sound stage. They are actually on par with one another. For now I say they are like M-100s with more mid-bass, more pronounced mids, and with less comfortable earcups.
I doubt that we will be able to come to any reasonable answer to this dispute. We are a niche of higly informed users with high expentancy of the products we purchase.
Beats are Yamahas are not directed towards this sort of crowd, but to a crowd that buys based on impulses (80% of the human population).
This is why we are "the lucky ones", when it comes to sound, as we get our moneys worth.
Lucky for me, im the same in Computers, and my main passion is gaming/music.
Unfortunatelly, this means normal people who want to not get scammed (i belive selling a cheap overpriced product is a form of scam), a decent amount of information has to be gathered before any purchase.
This is ..... bs...
This is for example, something i belive is happening also with the gaming industry almost since 2009.
From times of crysis, dead space 1 , witcher 1 and gears of war, to call of duty-like games.
Seems like people have such a huge need to spend their money, that no matter what they are offered they will buy it.
Well, i better stop here cus im going off-topic with something that simply pisses me off.
From the moment I saw these headphones I thought the design of these headphones was a complete rip off of Beats and seriously wondered why they would even consider this design. I don't even like the flashy, cheap design of Monster headphones in the first place. I respect Yamaha as an audio company, but targeting a consumer market in this way is pathetic. Then I saw this, and now I'm not sure what to think...
...while it is hilarious, they made it clear that they are copying the design and are probably going to be forced to pay a reasonable fine. Then again, a ton of other companies have copied this exact design and Monster took no legal action. I think that Monster are afraid of Yamaha having superior sonic quality to their headphones and don't want them intruding on the Beats sales.
IMO, Beats are way more similar to Shure's, than the Yamaha's to Beats.
Earlier in the thread, I posted this, but you probably didn't see it. Beats was out with the Studio (in 2008) before Shure had released any of its SRH over-ears (in 2009). Of course, I'm not suggesting that Shure copied Beats, or vice-versa--only that it seems unlikely Beats copied Shure, per those dates.
Actually, these (http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SRH240A-Professional-Quality-Headphones/dp/B002DP594W/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1361579755&sr=8-5&keywords=shure+srh+440) came out in 2004.