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NEW Vali Schiit AMP!!!

Discussion in 'Headphone Amps (full-size)' started by lff, Oct 9, 2013.
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  1. 4nradio
  2. wje
    Do realize that there was some mention of 6088 tubes a bit earlier in this thread. If you perform a web search on 6088 tubes and microphonics, you'll see a lot of discussions in the DIY communities how such a tube has quite a few issues with such a tube. While I initially started to perform mods on mine it became more apparent that a solid fix for some of the microphonics issues was not nearly such an easy fix.

    With that being said, I don't sense too much frustration, as to do so would be without merit. For me, I realize this is a very small issue to live with and even that is quickly offset when one hears the beautiful sounds it produces.
  3. thegunner100
    Well, I spent a little more time with the vali and hd600 combo today and it actually doesn't seem to be as bad as I thought it was initially when i wrote this. I think it's mainly because I'm just really used to how the hd800s sound, and the hd600s feel very closed in and upfront in comparison. It's a fine combo. 
    Curious to hear how the gungnir will change things around with the vali.

  4. Solarium
    I'm loving my Vali, but it's just really a b1tch to unplug the 2 RCA cables from my sound card to reconnect my desktop speaker cables every time I don't want to use my HP's.
    To get pre-outs I pretty much have to upgrade to Lyr, which would be another $300.
    I'm thinking of trying out a Fiio E09K, since that has a pre-amp out and it's pretty affordable. Will I notice a significant deterioration of SQ from the Vali to the E09k, using my HD650's?
    Also, is there a way to get pre-outs via another source besides an amp unit... like something that can be used with a Vali?
  5. thegunner100

    Why not just get a RCA splitter? Something like these would do, or even the cheap monoprice ones:
  6. Solarium
    Won't that deteriorate the sound quality? I read somewhere that if I use splitters it increases the resistance or something and lessen the amplification.
  7. thegunner100
    I think it has been mentioned earlier in this thread, when people wanted to split the modi's signal to the magni and vali: no loss in SQ.
  8. Solarium
    Would it work in the same way when I split signals from a sound card as well? I'm presuming it's a yes if it's the same concept as a Modi as a DAC.
    BTW, how's http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Ultra-Performance-Y-Adapter-MKII/dp/B000WLZSGS/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1387315517&sr=8-16&keywords=RCA+Y+splitter ?
    I'm also using http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021814&p_id=2864&seq=1&format=2 for my speaker and cable to run from the DAC to amplifier. The physical quality of these cables are pretty poor, will it make a difference in getting higher end ones?
    I've done a lot of home theater research and found most overpriced monster cable crap don't give any better visuals, especially via digital sources like HDMI or DVI, but do RCA cables matter?
  9. thegunner100

    Yep, it should work the same way. Give it a try, you don't have much to lose if you buy it from monoprice.
  10. Binge
    Those monoprice cables are a good value and performance as long as they are not damaged.
  11. live audio
    GLS Audio is another choice for inexpensive cables. They seem a little nicer than monoprice. I use them for stage use. I have employed Y-adapters on stage and in studio for years without any SQ issues.
    I just ordered a Vali for use primarily with k701s. From what I read this should make a good combination. My sources will be mostly analog. I might get the Modi for use with digital recordings, but I may save for a different dac. Still deciding.
  12. swannie007
    We all need more Schiit for the holidays!
  13. swannie007
    4nradio, I really can't remember what version it is. I think it was a download from iTunes but can't really remember. I am using my MacPro as a source running iTunes with BitPerfect. Cheers.
  14. Mshenay
    if you use a spiltter from ur dac to the amp, the amp is going to get a weaker signal from teh dac. I doubt the loss in quality is audible... at least not with the Modi and Vali
    the benifit is higher end Dacs also have more output. Audio GD espically, even the low end models have at least 2 rca outs, more if you want more [they also have ACSS outs for use with Audio GD amps] 
    For example I got my Audio GD dac, not just for the dac but for the increase in inputs and out puts. I have a TV tthat runs SpDif out into my Dac, and I now have 2 amps. So the Audio GD I have [old model less I/o] has like 3 inputs and 3 outputs, and it sounds better. So connetivity is better with high end dacs as well. espically if your connecting multiple devices to one unit 
    YES, I use Mono Price cables. They are very find indeed, heck I went and bought $50 Coaxial RCA's from my Local Radio Shack and compared to the mono price it was no differeance... GRANTED Radio Shak is not the GO TO place for cables but honestly... mono price rcas are just fine! I would say don't start upgrading cables till you got ur end game amp, dac and headphones xD 
  15. Wallboy
    Got my Vali/Modi today, both tubes seem to be laying flat, and I hear the microphonics through my K701's when I scratch on the volume knob in the left channel for like 15 seconds, but it's insanely faint, and compared to the noise i was getting from my soundcard before it's nothing. You guys who only have your volume up to 10 o'clock must have really sensitive cans or something. I can get up to 3 o'clock on many of the songs I've listened to before through my pa2v2 before I consider it "loud". Maybe thats just me lol. But I will let this Vali burn in before giving impressions.
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