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New TOL A&K DAP : the AK Ultima SP1000

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by Toolman, May 15, 2017.
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  1. Eaglet
    Gentlemen, don't you really hear the difference in the sound of the last two firmwares or don't you want to admit to yourself that it is? That's how only marketers, not engineers, can stimulate the purchase of new devices. I'm sorry, but no longer will I be buying new Astell&Kern devices.
     
  2. Fafner
    Frankly, this "latest firmware changed the sound" history has been coming out at every damn firmware update, since the very first A&K player. I never noticed any change, if you want to believe all those who feel the same are a bunch of manipulated idiots, well...up to you. It's not the most clever way to introduce yourself at your 5th post here.
     
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  3. lights
    A&K already confirmed that they don't change the sound signature with firmware updates. So yes, nobody hears the changes because there aren't any.
     
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  4. Eaglet
    I always thought that the concepts of "say" and "hear" could lie in different planes. A&K can say anything. I repeat once again - the rollback of the firmware returned the sound to the previous level of "magic".
     
  5. vrockz
    How did you download the old version of the firmware, the firmware page on AK site does not have a link for download,
     
  6. olddude
    Unless you had AK put an old firmware back in (which I have never heard of them doing), how did you you get in there and roll the firmware back? Other companies do change sound sig with updates (Fiio especially) but AK does not. Now your player might have been a bit corrupted and the new firmware, being clean, might have sounded different. But I've had three AK's and have never heard a sound sig difference (And that would be at least 15-20 updates).

    If you choose to stop using AK, that's certainly your prerogative. No one is forcing you to use it. It's pretty easy to sell stuff here in the For Sale section.
     
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  7. Eaglet
    I have the firmware in the form of an "update.hex" file. Yes, it can't be downloaded from the official A&K website. I rolled back the firmware by simply copying the specified file into the player's main memory and performing the update procedure. Summary - I believe only in my ears.
     
  8. vrockz
    Thx for the reply. i am not able to find it on the AK site. Let me PM you.
     
  9. Eaglet
    I don't answer PM, only in the forum.
     
  10. madFloyd
    LOL
     
  11. Progisus
    Hoping Roon upgrade will be rolling out soon. That will change things but not the sound.
     
  12. Dionysus
    I couldn’t agree more. I have personally never heard a difference in firmware, and I to, have had a handful of AK players.
     
  13. kel77
    If you like the sound of the old firmware , why don't you just stick to it and not update to the new one?
     
  14. Eaglet
    If you don't hear the difference in sound, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    That's what I'm doing right now, staying on the old firmware.
     
  15. 329161
    It happens with every fw update, and it happens with every device that has upgradeable fw.
    I don't hear a difference.
     
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