NEW Sony 4.4mm Pentaconn Balanced Connector
Jan 27, 2017 at 9:43 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 32
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May 1, 2017 at 11:03 PM Post #4 of 32
ooo I wonder when the female 4.4 jacks will be available, would be nice to create a 2.5 to 4.4 adapter
 
Oct 28, 2017 at 5:49 PM Post #5 of 32
no adapter available for 4.4mm to 4 Pin XLR?
 
Jan 19, 2018 at 11:18 PM Post #7 of 32
What is the advantage of this new standard? I.e. why bother inventing it? Does it even solve the short problem standard 2.5/3.5/6.3mm connectors have?

It's unbelievable that I can't find an answer anywhere on the internet. It's almost as if it doesn't even have any advantages over the existing standard, other than being newer. And in that case, again, why does this need to exist?

If we really need a new standard for some reason, I've always thought the Hifiman/LH Labs 3.5mm TRRS is the best. This one TRRS cable is universally compatible with both balanced and single ended jacks...at least, it is when the jack on your device shorts the R and S poles internally, like they all should. I have amps that do, and amps that don't.
 
Feb 12, 2018 at 5:14 PM Post #9 of 32
What is the advantage of this new standard? I.e. why bother inventing it? Does it even solve the short problem standard 2.5/3.5/6.3mm connectors have?

It's unbelievable that I can't find an answer anywhere on the internet. It's almost as if it doesn't even have any advantages over the existing standard, other than being newer. And in that case, again, why does this need to exist?

If we really need a new standard for some reason, I've always thought the Hifiman/LH Labs 3.5mm TRRS is the best. This one TRRS cable is universally compatible with both balanced and single ended jacks...at least, it is when the jack on your device shorts the R and S poles internally, like they all should. I have amps that do, and amps that don't.

The problem with the 2.5mm and 3.5mm TRRS connections is that there is no grounding connection. Thus when you try to tie a balanced output from a portable DC powered device to an AC based home piece where there is a true earth ground associated with it, there can be a ground loop issue.

This can introduce hum into the signal path thus the reason Astell & Kern developed their dual connector (3.5mm and 2.5mm) block for connecting their portable players to home systems. The 3.5mm acts as the ground connection. The 4.4mm TRRRS is a brilliant connection choice in my opinion as it is smaller than 1/4", 4 pin XLR or dual 3 pin XLRs. I hope more companies adopt it. It is more robust than the 3.5mm and 2.5mm. The tabs in the 4.4mm female jack are also large enough to help retain a good contact force over the male plug. The 2.5mm is terrible at this and even 3.5mm jacks get loose over time.

I hope this helps clarify it a bit more. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

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Jun 19, 2018 at 2:31 PM Post #11 of 32
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Jul 31, 2018 at 10:22 AM Post #13 of 32
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