New Shanling Streamers - EM5 & EA5
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with Apple Music via coax out
 

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Jul 17, 2022 at 1:17 AM Post #472 of 520

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I just found out that offline MQA file is not transferable by coax out put if connected to Mojo 2, while rest of Flac or WAV is okay.
I remember hearing that MQA devices are not allowed to output unfolded MQA via digital outputs or else it's a licence violation.

However, as far as I know, there's no restriction on passing through the MQA before the unfolding process takes place. So my guess is that the EM5 is automatically unfolding MQA and therefore isn't able to send it through any digital outputs.
 
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I remember hearing that MQA devices are not allowed to output unfolded MQA via digital outputs or else it's a licence violation.

However, as far as I know, there's no restriction on passing through the MQA before the unfolding process takes place. So my guess is that the EM5 is automatically unfolding MQA and therefore isn't able to send it through any digital outputs.
this is not what UAPP does in android phone and any adroid based DAP tho, unfolding then sending out to any dac.
 
Jul 17, 2022 at 3:12 AM Post #474 of 520

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Honestly, I don't know enough about this stuff to be able to speak with certainty. I can only speak based on my own experiences and observations.

I heard about the MQA digital out limitation in a youtube video that was very critical of the MQA format as a whole. Since I didn't want to use only this source, I did a quick web search.

According to the official MQA page, it seems that the first unfold can be done through software or on devices with digital outputs. Any further unfolding is done through a "MQA Renderer" or "MQA Full Decoder" and doesn't seem to support digital outs. According to the shanling EM5 product page, the EM5 supports 8x MQA playback (3 unfolds).

What this tells me is that the EM5 isn't acting as a core decoder, but a full renderer, and in order to support MQA digital out, it would have to remove the last 2 unfolds from the rendering process and it would no longer be "8x MQA playback".

As for UAPP, it seems that the MQA plugin you can buy is a "MQA Core Decoder", meaning it only has 1 unfold and can pass that data digitally to a DAC that can act as an MQA Renderer or MQA Full Decoder.

Hopefully this helps, and I'm also willing to be proven wrong if my info isn't accurate.
 
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I just found out that offline MQA file is not transferable by coax out put if connected to Mojo 2, while rest of Flac or WAV is okay.

We are aware of this issue and looking if it's possible to fix it. At default, EM5 automatically tries to play the 8X MQA, which is not possible to output through coaxial or optical. We will need to add some inner system split, that would allow Tidal up to do just its first unfolding and then send it out.
 
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We are aware of this issue and looking if it's possible to fix it. At default, EM5 automatically tries to play the 8X MQA, which is not possible to output through coaxial or optical. We will need to add some inner system split, that would allow Tidal up to do just its first unfolding and then send it out.
Nice! look forward for the update progress..
 
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Dear @Shanling will a 1TB flashdisk works at the rear usb plug? and what format work best, FAT or ExFat?

Should be fine, our software team says that up to 2TB it was tested. We use exfat for our drives and cards.
 
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Firmware update V1.4 for EM5 and V1.33 for EA5

https://en.shanling.com/article-EAEMUpdateAugust.html

This firmware update moves around the streaming services and input switch, so please be sure to check the guide to know where to find it after the update.

It's also recommended to do complete factory reset after the update.
 
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Firmware update V1.4 for EM5 and V1.33 for EA5

https://en.shanling.com/article-EAEMUpdateAugust.html

This firmware update moves around the streaming services and input switch, so please be sure to check the guide to know where to find it after the update.

It's also recommended to do complete factory reset after the update.
Hi, @Shanling , Tidal is not working after firmware upgrade. All I get is blank screen with timeline and buttons. I performed factory reset as sugested. Sorry for bad picture...

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