NEW - Schiit Asgard 2
Apr 12, 2014 at 9:45 AM Post #1,531 of 2,741
How did you also run the signal to your sub? Just a splitter?

The A21 and A23 have Loop Out's on the back of the amp and you can use those to send the signal to your sub. 
 
Apr 12, 2014 at 11:06 AM Post #1,532 of 2,741
Ah, loop out. Wish my Emotiva had that. I suppose a pair of y connectors aren't doing much different.
 
Apr 12, 2014 at 11:07 AM Post #1,533 of 2,741
Sorry for back to back posts, but has anyone in here compared the Asgard 2 to the Vahalla or Lyr? I'm looking at those 3 and the BH Crack and can't make up my mind...
 
Apr 12, 2014 at 11:35 AM Post #1,534 of 2,741
Sorry for back to back posts, but has anyone in here compared the Asgard 2 to the Vahalla or Lyr? I'm looking at those 3 and the BH Crack and can't make up my mind...

I have the Lyr and the Asgard 2, haven't used the A2 for headphones enough yet to give an honest take on how much difference there is and what those differences are beyond the Lyr having a lot more gain. I "think" the Lyr has a warmer midrange, but it's really too soon to say for sure. Once I have a better handle on the A2 has a headphone amp I'll post my thoughts on it versus the Lyr. 
 
Both the Lyr and A2 give you preamp outs and that can come in very handy as it gives you a backup preamp if needed or your main preamp if you only need one source input. 
 
Apr 12, 2014 at 12:59 PM Post #1,536 of 2,741
   
Thanks, I'd love to hear your thoughts!

Here's my subjective impression based on the last Head-fi meet I attended:
 
I heard an AKG K712 on a Schiit Lyr and Asgard 2 both being paired with the Schiit Bifrost Uber.
 
Schiit Lyr has the "tube" sound and has warm midrange, smoothed highs, good bass, detail is apparent but there is a slight fuzz. For the short time I listened to it I was impressed by the tube sound and was interested how my DT880 would pair up with it but forgot to bring it to the meet : [ 
 
Schiit Asgard 2 is a neutral leaning towards warm sounding headphone amp with amazing detail in the highs, accurate midrange, deep impactful bass( more so than the Lyr IMO ) but is likely based on the headphones you have. The sense of a 3D soundstage is there with great instrument separation on both amps. Asgard 2 has a cleaner sound but it is not sterile like the Objective 2 and has deeper bass and warmer mids.
 
EDIT: Right now I have my own Asgard 2 with me and I am just so happening to be listening to the Cure. Robert Smith's voice is incredibly life like and I can hear his breaths that are going with the melody of "Close to Me" floating around back and forth between right earcup and left earcup with the realistic imaging. A very nice nice experience.
 
Also listened to Nujabes - Hydeout Productions in FLAC and Metaphorical Music and let's just say the frequency balance is perfect for me with the Asgard 2 lending just the right amount of bass coloration to my DT880s
 
HOWEVER, if you are driving low impedance cans that require a lot of power the Lyr is a no brainer
 
Now, onto the Bottlehead Crack. I heard the Bottlehead Crack with the DT880 600 ohm and HD650. First the HD650 and Bottlehead Crack is a fantastic pairing with lush mids, deep bass, and euphonic sound lacking in detail (the "veil"). DT880 600 ohm on the BH Crack had nice bass, weird mids, and just didn't sound correctly paired with synergy. Be reminded this pairing was paired together with the Schiit Bifrost Uber so I can accurately pinpoint differences between the Asgard 2.
 
I personally own the DT880 250 ohm and find the pairing WAY better than the Bottlehead Crack with DT880 600 ohm. However if you have an HD650 buy the Bottlehead Crack
 
Apr 12, 2014 at 2:20 PM Post #1,537 of 2,741
Sorry for back to back posts, but has anyone in here compared the Asgard 2 to the Vahalla or Lyr? I'm looking at those 3 and the BH Crack and can't make up my mind...


Was able to compare the A2 and Valhalla at a meet. The Valhalla brought my Beyer T90 to life while I've never really cared for them with the A2. Yet with my SM64 IEMs the Valhalla turned the bass into a sloppy mess, whereas with the A2 the bass (and sub-bass extension) is excellent.

My conclusion: A2 for lower impedance phones and the Valhalla tor higher impedance phones.
 
Apr 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM Post #1,538 of 2,741
Was able to compare the A2 and Valhalla at a meet. The Valhalla brought my Beyer T90 to life while I've never really cared for them with the A2. Yet with my SM64 IEMs the Valhalla turned the bass into a sloppy mess, whereas with the A2 the bass (and sub-bass extension) is excellent.

My conclusion: A2 for lower impedance phones and the Valhalla tor higher impedance phones.

 
Exactly the same experience with Asgard (1) and Valhalla with the T90 and also really low impedance cans. 
+1
 
Apr 13, 2014 at 10:24 AM Post #1,539 of 2,741
Can the asgard2 run a set of alpha dogs, I have been told the lyre is better choice, however I prefer solid state amps to tube amps.
 
Apr 14, 2014 at 10:28 AM Post #1,540 of 2,741
Can the asgard2 run a set of alpha dogs, I have been told the lyre is better choice, however I prefer solid state amps to tube amps.

 
I've tried the A2 with the Mad Dogs and LCD-2s, and both worked well. I'd assume the Alpha Dogs should as well, but haven't personally heard them (yet).
 
Apr 14, 2014 at 6:19 PM Post #1,541 of 2,741
Thanks for the information, I am leaning towards the a2, thanks.
 
Apr 16, 2014 at 7:28 PM Post #1,542 of 2,741
Can the asgard2 run a set of alpha dogs, I have been told the lyre is better choice, however I prefer solid state amps to tube amps.

My A2 will be here next week. I'm hoping I like it as well as the Burson soloist SL I had paired with my Alphas. Was going to go for a Lyr, but I think the Lyr would pair poorly with my new Oppo PM-1's. I'm hoping for a do all with the A2.
 
Apr 16, 2014 at 8:58 PM Post #1,543 of 2,741
Was going to go for a Lyr, but...


What makes you think the A2 will pair better than the Lyr? I'm currently debating between the two and am currently leaning toward the Lyr, but just wondering if I can be convinced otherwise.
 
Apr 16, 2014 at 9:10 PM Post #1,544 of 2,741
I meant the lyr's 8 watts into my 32 ohm, 102 db/mW Oppo PM-1's would likely be less than optimal. I think the A2 with less overall power and 2 gain settings should pair well with my Oppos and ciems, and well enough with my Alphas. The Lyr is quite good with the Alphas as I recall. I dang near bought a Lyr this week. I just decided it might not be the best choice with the Oppos. If I only had the alphas, I probably would have gone for the Lyr.
 
Apr 16, 2014 at 9:19 PM Post #1,545 of 2,741
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