New James Bond film, disappointing?
Nov 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 81

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Hey all, well after a very long and anticipating wait i went to see the sequel to Casino Royale, The Quantum of Solace. After finding every Bond film excellent, even after Daniel Craig changing their future in multiple ways i still throughly enjoyed them all.

However, The Quantum of Solace to me, signified disaster, James Bond in this movie has almost lost its identity, if it didn't have his name mentioned in it, you would not know it was a Bond movie. There was no cheese at all in it, a little less would not have been a problem but none? Where were the inventive gadgets, there was not one used in the entire movie by Bond himself. My other major gripe at the film was the plot, although it was there it just wasn't prominent enough, it switched and hopped about too much and it struggled to focus on what his main objective was. When the 'baddies' went down, they went down far too easily for a traditional Bond film.

Although there was nothing overly wrong with the film, it was just a disappointing film for my family. It wasn't 'traditional' Bond in anyway, and thats what many people pay to see. The casting team and Daniel Craig are trying to make it something its not - and thats the part i dislike most. I hope that in the next movie it will be back to the old style, either pre Craig style all together or at least in the style of Casino Royale where there was a prominent objective, and a commonly seen 'Baddie.' All in all i believe it was a waste of money to go and see it and would rate it very poorly at 4/10.

But thats just my two cents, anyone else wanting to share there views, please do. My views might be completely unrepresentative of what other people want from the Bond franchise.

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Nov 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM Post #2 of 81

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If anyone else complains about the lack of gadgets in QoS and Casino Royale, I'm gonna flame you because this is the story of how James Bond started of before agent Q came in and started inventing gadgets. Seriously people, stop complaining if you don't even know the story's timeline.
 
Nov 2, 2008 at 11:46 AM Post #3 of 81

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There were plenty in Casino Royale, correct me if i am wrong
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Nov 2, 2008 at 11:49 AM Post #4 of 81

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There were plenty in Casino Royale, correct me if i am wrong
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Plenty of high tech gadgets in Casino Royale? Strongly disagree. And that's the way it should've been. I for one, am happy that QoS still lacks in gadgets because that's how it should be.
 
Nov 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM Post #5 of 81

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Im not trying to claim I am the most clued up Bond watching individual there is, but I do watch them as and when they come out. But again i maybe wrong, but didn't numerous important individuals involved in Bond production state they wanted to change the way the franchise was going?
 
Nov 2, 2008 at 12:14 PM Post #9 of 81

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Quote:

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Plenty of high tech gadgets in Casino Royale? Strongly disagree. And that's the way it should've been. I for one, am happy that QoS still lacks in gadgets because that's how it should be.


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Haven't seen it yet but I really liked Casino Royale. I also think Daniel Craig is an excellent Bond.

BTW, can anyone tell me what Quantom Of Solace means? :p
 
Nov 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM Post #10 of 81

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The new Bond reminds me of Vladimir Putin.
 
Nov 2, 2008 at 12:20 PM Post #13 of 81

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Most people grew up with the mindset that Bond = gadgets. They forgot all about storyline. Sometimes I would like to smack them and tell them that this is how Bond became 007!!!!! Not how Bond saves the day with his gadgets.
 
Nov 2, 2008 at 1:28 PM Post #14 of 81

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For me, this was the second best bond movie, after Casino Royale. I liked the fact that the got rid of the old, boring, cliched bond stereotype, and made it into a movie worth seeing for a reason except "oh its a bond movie". I just saw it last night, but i want to see it again.

Although the plot was thing (non existent?) and the movie was almost all action, the little pieces of dialogue in it (though few and far between) were just so good.

Spoiler (?) below in white.

My one problem (except fo the plot) with the movie is that near the start with the chase in venice was too Bourne. Except for that, the movie was just soo smart.

For example, the chase during the opera/play thing in which they didn't really show the "chase" rather played it to the soundtrack of the opera played on the fact that the whole thing is choreographed, and so cliched. But it also signified how bond's life is like a tragedy, in which he loses all his loved ones.

And also notice how they never used the "bond" music, because otherwise the audience immediately knows that bond is in no danger.

All in all, the movie is how a true bond movie should be. Not comedic/cliched but an actual thriller.


Those are just my opinions.

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