"New" Giant Apes Discovered in the Congo

[spaceman]

Man, this would be so cool if this is in fact a new species of ape. Just imagine, being hidden for all these years.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3730574.stm

 

[skitlets]

I thought we were the last evolution of apes and chimpanzees.

 

[gsferrari]

Quote:

Originally Posted by skitlets I thought we were the last evolution of apes and chimpanzees.

Thats what they think when they see us

There is no "last evolution" its an ongoing process...we will keep evolving but the problem is that, unlike before, technology is making up for a lot of the changes that caused evolution in the past. We are compensating the factors required for evolution with technology...

Machines are our future...and -NO- I am not a Matrix fanboy...this is a common, well established idea.

 

[spaceman]

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsferrari Thats what they think when they see us There is no "last evolution" its an ongoing process...we will keep evolving but the problem is that, unlike before, technology is making up for a lot of the changes that caused evolution in the past. We are compensating the factors required for evolution with technology... Machines are our future...and -NO- I am not a Matrix fanboy...this is a common, well established idea.

I support the Theory of Evolution.........and those machines can have my opposable thumb when they pry it from my cold dead hand!

 

[KR...]

Wow, this is huge if this is a new race of apes.

update, more articles, this link has a collection of them:

http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/artic...teryapedna.htm

 

[gsferrari]

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceman I support the Theory of Evolution.........and those machines can have my opposable thumb when they pry it from my cold dead hand!

I support the theory of evolution too but we are using technology to dummy down the very catalysts that would otherwise normally be the motivation to evolve. Now - we are becoming more and more like machines every day. Look at the average human being. Medical advancements result in machines and mechanical parts finding their way into the body...its growing...we are slowly but surely becoming machines. In the future it will be possible to replace entire limbs with fully functional mechanical limbs (I have worked on one such project - but its not really what you might think...more to do with signal processing).

Brain parts getting replaced by chips (this is already possible)...

We are well on our way towards an android/cyborg culture (there is a subtle difference between the two - I will explain if it is not already clear to you guys). I wonder if, in the past, people were able to acknowledge this "vision" of evolution...if they had any idea of the changes that were already taking place in such a subtle fashion as to be unnoticeable...and while the changes gradually became more and more "prominent" the human acceptance of these changes also grw in proportion making them insignificant still...

It will never hit us that we are changing...it will just happen

 

[mjg]

We are machines already. As abstract or philiosophical the notion is, we were machines since our inception. We consist of moving parts, consume, produce, and so forth. Yet, what draws the line? Is a machine something made off an assembly line? We are animals and can reproduce. What if we can be produced in pods (clones) Are they human too? I think we are organic machines. Yet there is more interest to this:
If a machine is cable of human like behavoir or thought, now is he a human? I'm taking a computation theory course next spring, and a large topic in this course is answering a question, can a computer solve this sort of problem? Allan turring developed a test
http://cogsci.ucsd.edu/~asaygin/tt/ttest.html#intro that attempts to answer this question. As of now, with the current state of AI, if u want to look at it from a flat point of you, our capabilities are an entire abstract above what computers are. Even the most dynamic programs can not assimilate our sorts of approaches to problems. Call it human intuition?
If a machine had this capacity, is it in fact a machine, or are we just machines with this inherited capability.

Our most complicated designs are all derived from nature, if in fact we are natural to begin with.
I'm ready for sophisticated AI, in fact i want to be involved in AI development when my education and time permits. I'm deeply interested in the subject.

 

[gsferrari]

let us define "machine" as something that is man made and NOT out of sexual intercourse

 

[mjg]

So i guess you do consider a clone a machine ? : P

 

[gsferrari]

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjg So i guess you do consider a clone a machine ? : P

Yes - absolutely. Clones, Test Tube Babies fall into the grey area but clones are definitely machines IMO.

Which is what I am saying - the lines are fading...they were clear cut not too long ago and they are already fading. We will accept the transformation without resistance...resistance is futile because we will be resisting ourselves in the process.

It has begun....

 

[eyeteeth]

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceman I support the Theory of Evolution.........and those machines can have my opposable thumb when they pry it from my cold dead hand!

LOL

You cheeky monkey.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsferrari I support the theory of evolution too

FWIW I do too. As well as the round earth theory.

 

[earful]

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsferrari Machines are our future...and -NO- I am not a Matrix fanboy...this is a common, well established idea.

welcome to the borg!

 

[null]

wow, thats awesome... it just goes to show you that we still dont know a lot about our world. especially the ocean...

 

[Edwood]

Kewl. Do they use unfinished diamond ore to crush people's skulls?

-Ed

 

[sleepkyng]

you guys, it's all a hoax,

that's just my dad, he got a little drunk, hopped on a plane and the well, there you go...