NEW - Campfire Comet and Atlas
May 3, 2018 at 4:25 AM Post #721 of 3,483
Just returned from the Tokyo spring headphone show. As usual it was a great event and we had so much fun.

I spent some time checking in listening to some other well known IEMs, yeah I know I am just a wee bit bias but I was not able to find another IEM in the place that I liked more or even equal to the Atlas. Sorry I know that sounds horn tooting but I really cant be much more proud of the Atlas. There is something to be said about a full range driver, no crossovers, no component in the signal path, no mechanical resonance issues that all BAs seem to have etc.. The Atlas to me has superior spatial properties that I just do not hear in other IEMs. All IEMs will produce what I like to visualize or image as a "ball" of music in my head where all the magic happens. This ball will be, so big, the larger the better, better room for instrument separation and refinement, micro detail, transition speed, and mid and low decay etc... The larger this image or ball the more life like the experience = the closer I can get to that emotional response I am looking for. All with out phase and image anomalies that might lessen the shape or size of this ball of music in my head. Most IEMs have some sort of high frequency shift, or cupped sound or ice pick in the ear type that is not up my ally. The Atlas just checks all the boxes and does so with such authority, sorry dont take my word for it please read others upcoming reviews and or attend one of our many shows to have a listen and decide for yourself :wink:

Cheers,

Ken

Kb


Well! As far as I'm concerned... they're sold!
Been wanting the Andromedas, but stopped cold when I saw you guys came out with the Atlas...

Main thing for me, with strange ears (especially the right) the Atlas seem also to be the best fit and comfort.
 
May 3, 2018 at 5:40 AM Post #722 of 3,483
Perfection Atlas?

INTRO:
It takes about 5 seconds to realize that the Atlas was a labor of love for the Campfire team. This juggernaut is the culmination of their wealth of experience, trials, tribulations, user feedback, and technological discoveries. The Atlas doesn’t pull any punches, so take your blood pressure medication because there will be heart palpitations.

As with all things in audio, the whole doesn’t equal the sum of its parts. There will inevitably be comparisons to the Vega because they both utilize an A.D.L.C. dynamic driver (8.5mm vs. 10mm), but that would be selling the Atlas short based on what I’m hearing. I can concede that upon first listen this appears to be an incremental upgrade across the FR over the Vega, but I also know that some minor refinements in this hobby create the pricing chasms between competing products and can subjectively impact the overall enjoyment of the music. As I give the Atlas more listening over the next few weeks, I strongly suspect the Vega will be supplanted as my favorite dynamic driver IEM.

SIDE NOTE:
We are in the age of a headphone renaissance with so many manufacturers jumping at the opportunity to provide the best possible equipment at any given price point. Campfire Audio exemplifies this philosophy by infusing their Portland culture into marvelous metals, unique topologies, and original sound signatures. They stand out in a sea of homogenous me-too products. I could not be more grateful that Ken and Co. dropped the money on the roulette table and took that gamble to bring their products to market. It’s a great time to be alive!

DESIGN:
The Atlas and Comet are arguably the most visually striking models CA has conceptualized. It’s all in the small details. The hand polished stainless steel looks good even when mottled with fingerprints. Unlike the zirconium blasted aluminum shells of the BA models or the liquid metal alloy of the DD models, the Atlas and Comet have a matching finish 3D printed tip and applying/removing ear tips is quite effortless. The overall fit and finish looks and feels second to none.

The new silver cable is wound with a twist and purported to reduce tangling and microphonics. I can attest that it works exceptionally well. I’m certain CA sought to address this since the Atlas is designed to be worn down and that will inherently make any IEM more susceptible to microphonics.

COMFORT:
Comfort is going to depend on a few variables: ear tip type, ear tip size, and wear preference. Unlike the other CA offerings which are designed to be worn over ear, the Atlas is designed to be worn down. The closest comparison I’ve personally experienced with this design would be the IE 800 / IE 800 S. Spending the necessary time to get the fit just right will make or break the experience for some and I don’t want anyone to miss hearing what the Atlas can do.

There are three different types of ear tips: CA stock foam, CA silicone, and Final Audio E Series edge style. I recommend checking your prejudice for a specific type of ear tip and take the time to try each one in all available sizes. In addition, cinching the chin slider up high and using a shirt clip definitely improve the overall comfort.

Personal ear tip preference order:
  1. CA stock foam
  2. Final Audio E Series edge style
  3. CA silicone
I will admit that this one surprised me a little. I have smaller ear canals and typically always use the smallest size ear tip available; however, the smallest CA stock foam is always one size larger than the smallest of the other supplied ear tip types. This turned out to be a perfect match for me and effortlessly holds the Atlas in place without the need to adjust it two minutes later. It simply stays put and is super comfortable through some of my impromptu dance moves. I suspect the body heat from your ears allows the foam to expand as well and that contributes to keeping it in place.

The Final Audio Series edge style is made of silicone and has a thick ribbed stem for rigidity similar to the SpinFit tips. There are 5 different sizes available for this ear tip, so the experimentation options are endless and I actually preferred using two different sizes for the left and right. These ear tips render a slightly different sound compared to the CA stock foam, but I ultimately found myself adjusting it every few minutes as it slowly worked its way out of my ear.

The CA silicone is the only ear tip that is almost flush with the Atlas’s tip barrel and as a direct result means you will get a deeper insertion. I couldn’t get these to sit in place for me, regardless of the size. If you have experience with the IE 800 and had trouble with the fit, then this will be a similar affair.

The Atlas can definitely be worn over ear with success, but it’s not as comfortable or ergonomic as popping them straight in your ears.

INITIAL IMPRESSIONS:
Naturally I couldn’t wait to hear these straight out of the box and throw the burn-in caveats to the wind. I promised myself that I wouldn’t provide anything less than helpful impressions to potential listeners and curb the emotional commentary, but some promises were meant to be broken. I will be the first to admit that when I heard reports regarding sonic improvements across the FR versus the Vega, I winced a little. More isn’t always better. Better is better.

My initial impression of the Atlas in comparison to the venerable Vega after 10 hours of listening through my Hugo 2 is that it simply does everything better across the gamut. It could be the increase in driver size, the polarity tuned chamber, the new silver braided cable, but I can’t unhear these noticeable differences in detail, speed, texture, and nuance.

TREBLE:
The high frequencies cleave instrumental notes with aplomb while simultaneously supplying more detail. The timbre has increased to a degree I can only describe as liquid realism; the treble appears in the mix and decays fast enough to tickle my eardrum at times. I don’t want it to come across as hyperbole when I say it’s some of the finest treble I’ve ever heard, but it is beyond reproach on even the most sibilant of test tracks.

MIDS:
The mids have increased definition and stand more in the spotlight. They even manage to steal the show during complex passages with the other two frequencies in full effect. I’m hearing the male vocals as having more bite and rasp in the chest while female vocals are angelic and smooth, which is exactly how I like them.

BASS:
The bass to end all bass. The bass other bass wishes it could be. There are plenty of people who don’t enjoy a lot of bass and I was in that same camp years ago. I didn’t even know I liked bass this much until CA came along. I now subscribe to an old GM slogan: it’s not more than you need, it’s more than you’re used to. That being said, the bass is indeed larger in both scale and physicality than the Vega, but irrationally embodies more textural detail and impactful speed. These elemental improvements together create a unified, organic whole across a wider range of music genres. It’s also worth noting that the bass will inevitably settle down and become more refined with more hours of use.

SOUNDSTAGE:
This is a little more difficult to articulate, but the Atlas is more spacious and every frequency yields more delineated notes. The Atlas can at times feel like you’re drowning in a sea of detail and that renders moments of serious emotional engagement. It’s a good thing we’re all here to feel feelings because with the Atlas they will be felt.

I can’t say I’m speechless after writing down so many thoughts, but my heart is racing with excitement. The Atlas commands your attention from the very first listen and sets out to accomplish things that I didn’t think were possible with a dynamic driver: (a) treble with unmatched breadth and realism, (b) effortless and unencumbered mids, and (c) bass with speed, impact, and textural detail. CA further proves that you really can have it all.

Excellent, I never had comfort with over the ear IEMs. When Comet and Atlas were announced I thought Atlas could be it. And thanks for confirming it.
 
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May 3, 2018 at 7:20 AM Post #723 of 3,483
I listened to Comet and Atlas at Axpona, and fell in love with the Altas sound. Small, comfortable, ordered yesterday. Praying it gets here for the weekend.
 
May 3, 2018 at 7:33 AM Post #724 of 3,483
I've had the Atlas here for a few days now and with good acoustic music they sound more "open" and clear than the full-sized Cascade. I was pretty surprised when I discovered this to say the least.
 
May 3, 2018 at 8:58 AM Post #725 of 3,483
Perfection Atlas?

INTRO:
It takes about 5 seconds to realize that the Atlas was a labor of love for the Campfire team. This juggernaut is the culmination of their wealth of experience, trials, tribulations, user feedback, and technological discoveries. The Atlas doesn’t pull any punches, so take your blood pressure medication because there will be heart palpitations.

As with all things in audio, the whole doesn’t equal the sum of its parts. There will inevitably be comparisons to the Vega because they both utilize an A.D.L.C. dynamic driver (8.5mm vs. 10mm), but that would be selling the Atlas short based on what I’m hearing. I can concede that upon first listen this appears to be an incremental upgrade across the FR over the Vega, but I also know that some minor refinements in this hobby create the pricing chasms between competing products and can subjectively impact the overall enjoyment of the music. As I give the Atlas more listening over the next few weeks, I strongly suspect the Vega will be supplanted as my favorite dynamic driver IEM.

SIDE NOTE:
We are in the age of a headphone renaissance with so many manufacturers jumping at the opportunity to provide the best possible equipment at any given price point. Campfire Audio exemplifies this philosophy by infusing their Portland culture into marvelous metals, unique topologies, and original sound signatures. They stand out in a sea of homogenous me-too products. I could not be more grateful that Ken and Co. dropped the money on the roulette table and took that gamble to bring their products to market. It’s a great time to be alive!

DESIGN:
The Atlas and Comet are arguably the most visually striking models CA has conceptualized. It’s all in the small details. The hand polished stainless steel looks good even when mottled with fingerprints. Unlike the zirconium blasted aluminum shells of the BA models or the liquid metal alloy of the DD models, the Atlas and Comet have a matching finish 3D printed tip and applying/removing ear tips is quite effortless. The overall fit and finish looks and feels second to none.

The new silver cable is wound with a twist and purported to reduce tangling and microphonics. I can attest that it works exceptionally well. I’m certain CA sought to address this since the Atlas is designed to be worn down and that will inherently make any IEM more susceptible to microphonics.

COMFORT:
Comfort is going to depend on a few variables: ear tip type, ear tip size, and wear preference. Unlike the other CA offerings which are designed to be worn over ear, the Atlas is designed to be worn down. The closest comparison I’ve personally experienced with this design would be the IE 800 / IE 800 S. Spending the necessary time to get the fit just right will make or break the experience for some and I don’t want anyone to miss hearing what the Atlas can do.

There are three different types of ear tips: CA stock foam, CA silicone, and Final Audio E Series edge style. I recommend checking your prejudice for a specific type of ear tip and take the time to try each one in all available sizes. In addition, cinching the chin slider up high and using a shirt clip definitely improve the overall comfort.

Personal ear tip preference order:
  1. CA stock foam
  2. Final Audio E Series edge style
  3. CA silicone
I will admit that this one surprised me a little. I have smaller ear canals and typically always use the smallest size ear tip available; however, the smallest CA stock foam is always one size larger than the smallest of the other supplied ear tip types. This turned out to be a perfect match for me and effortlessly holds the Atlas in place without the need to adjust it two minutes later. It simply stays put and is super comfortable through some of my impromptu dance moves. I suspect the body heat from your ears allows the foam to expand as well and that contributes to keeping it in place.

The Final Audio Series edge style is made of silicone and has a thick ribbed stem for rigidity similar to the SpinFit tips. There are 5 different sizes available for this ear tip, so the experimentation options are endless and I actually preferred using two different sizes for the left and right. These ear tips render a slightly different sound compared to the CA stock foam, but I ultimately found myself adjusting it every few minutes as it slowly worked its way out of my ear.

The CA silicone is the only ear tip that is almost flush with the Atlas’s tip barrel and as a direct result means you will get a deeper insertion. I couldn’t get these to sit in place for me, regardless of the size. If you have experience with the IE 800 and had trouble with the fit, then this will be a similar affair.

The Atlas can definitely be worn over ear with success, but it’s not as comfortable or ergonomic as popping them straight in your ears.

INITIAL IMPRESSIONS:
Naturally I couldn’t wait to hear these straight out of the box and throw the burn-in caveats to the wind. I promised myself that I wouldn’t provide anything less than helpful impressions to potential listeners and curb the emotional commentary, but some promises were meant to be broken. I will be the first to admit that when I heard reports regarding sonic improvements across the FR versus the Vega, I winced a little. More isn’t always better. Better is better.

My initial impression of the Atlas in comparison to the venerable Vega after 10 hours of listening through my Hugo 2 is that it simply does everything better across the gamut. It could be the increase in driver size, the polarity tuned chamber, the new silver braided cable, but I can’t unhear these noticeable differences in detail, speed, texture, and nuance.

TREBLE:
The high frequencies cleave instrumental notes with aplomb while simultaneously supplying more detail. The timbre has increased to a degree I can only describe as liquid realism; the treble appears in the mix and decays fast enough to tickle my eardrum at times. I don’t want it to come across as hyperbole when I say it’s some of the finest treble I’ve ever heard, but it is beyond reproach on even the most sibilant of test tracks.

MIDS:
The mids have increased definition and stand more in the spotlight. They even manage to steal the show during complex passages with the other two frequencies in full effect. I’m hearing the male vocals as having more bite and rasp in the chest while female vocals are angelic and smooth, which is exactly how I like them.

BASS:
The bass to end all bass. The bass other bass wishes it could be. There are plenty of people who don’t enjoy a lot of bass and I was in that same camp years ago. I didn’t even know I liked bass this much until CA came along. I now subscribe to an old GM slogan: it’s not more than you need, it’s more than you’re used to. That being said, the bass is indeed larger in both scale and physicality than the Vega, but irrationally embodies more textural detail and impactful speed. These elemental improvements together create a unified, organic whole across a wider range of music genres. It’s also worth noting that the bass will inevitably settle down and become more refined with more hours of use.

SOUNDSTAGE:
This is a little more difficult to articulate, but the Atlas is more spacious and every frequency yields more delineated notes. The Atlas can at times feel like you’re drowning in a sea of detail and that renders moments of serious emotional engagement. It’s a good thing we’re all here to feel feelings because with the Atlas they will be felt.

I can’t say I’m speechless after writing down so many thoughts, but my heart is racing with excitement. The Atlas commands your attention from the very first listen and sets out to accomplish things that I didn’t think were possible with a dynamic driver: (a) treble with unmatched breadth and realism, (b) effortless and unencumbered mids, and (c) bass with speed, impact, and textural detail. CA further proves that you really can have it all.

Wow. I didnt have the itch to upgrade but now I do.
 
May 3, 2018 at 9:17 AM Post #726 of 3,483
I've had the Atlas here for a few days now and with good acoustic music they sound more "open" and clear than the full-sized Cascade. I was pretty surprised when I discovered this to say the least.

Mine arrived today, and I've been thinking along the same lines. It's a big fat sound, but so clear at the same time. These are impressive.
 
May 3, 2018 at 9:37 AM Post #727 of 3,483
I’d love to hear an objective review of the Atlas for those of you who had previously owned the Vegas...seems like there is a bit too much headphone hype going down in this thread.
 
May 3, 2018 at 10:07 AM Post #728 of 3,483
I’d love to hear an objective review of the Atlas for those of you who had previously owned the Vegas...seems like there is a bit too much headphone hype going down in this thread.
I have the Vega and the Atlas,
The Andromeda and the Comet,

I have Tinsel, Litz, Reference 8 and SXC-8 cables.

I will certainly be putting them through their proper paces and testing.

Yes, there is excitment in this thread but what I have read fits well within my experience also. The Atlas is excellent.

But more serious testing of it nuances over time and compared to vega etc is required. I agree.

I am always wary of hype trains of early review units as they usually blow up once people get their actual delivery (If it doesnt measure up).

So far my experience of the Atlas has been very positive.
 
May 3, 2018 at 10:21 AM Post #729 of 3,483
I’d love to hear an objective review of the Atlas for those of you who had previously owned the Vegas...seems like there is a bit too much headphone hype going down in this thread.

I currently have the Vega (and have owned it for over a year if memory serves) and Cascade to compare to the Atlas, so will be posting a hopefully objective comparison in a week or two, once I've had time to fully get used to the sound sig of the Atlas.

Will try not to over-hype these IEMs in the meanwhile, but like @ExpatinJapan , my early impressions are definitely very positive. Looking forward to hearing what other people think of them as they start dropping on people's doorsteps.

EDIT: updated various autocorrect errors - damned fat fingers!!
 
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May 3, 2018 at 10:29 AM Post #730 of 3,483
May 3, 2018 at 11:07 AM Post #731 of 3,483
I am always wary of hype trains of early review units as they usually blow up once people get their actual delivery (If it doesnt measure up).
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Uh, that's not how I see hype
working. Hype goes on for a while after delivery and gets into full swing about now :D You get the 'WoW" reviews that put it on people's radar. Then there's the wait and anticipation (very important :D ). THEN the deliveries- WOW! All the hype is true after all!...order.. order...order.
And people wait for the UPS guy at their windows. This goes on for about a week, ....then your tonsils begin to leak...but I digress :D
 
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May 3, 2018 at 11:21 AM Post #732 of 3,483
IEM honeymoon ~
 
May 3, 2018 at 11:21 AM Post #733 of 3,483
Definitely a Campfire audio guy. Love the aesthetics of the new Atlas and Comet! Might consider selling some of my stuff to get either.
 
May 3, 2018 at 11:40 AM Post #734 of 3,483
I'm new around here, but wanted to chime in and confirm what you are reading here about the Atlas is true. This is my 3rd pair of CA IEM's (Jupiter, Comet, Atlas in that order) and this is by far the most impressive set of anythings I have ever heard. Granted my experience with "high" end gear, or gear in this price range, is limited but I'll still offer up my initial reaction which was that my jaw dropped and I said quite literally "WOW". It's got so much texture at all levels of sound. The highs are clear, mid's punch, and the bass is surreal. I'm not doing it justice with this basic description, but I am seriously in awe of how capable these are. I have barely scratched the surface but am excited to listen to everything all over again just to "feel" the music again. Very impressive.

I'd be interested in knowing how these compare to something like the highly regarded Andromeda's for what it's worth. I know they are most likely going to be compared to the Vega's but I'd still be interested in someone briefly highlighting the differences for me. I have been toying with the idea of picking up Andromeda's for awhile and wonder what if anything they could offer that I wouldn't find in the Atlas if anyone who has heard both feels like sharing.
 
May 3, 2018 at 11:45 AM Post #735 of 3,483
I'm new around here, but wanted to chime in and confirm what you are reading here about the Atlas is true. This is my 3rd pair of CA IEM's (Jupiter, Comet, Atlas in that order) and this is by far the most impressive set of anythings I have ever heard. Granted my experience with "high" end gear, or gear in this price range, is limited but I'll still offer up my initial reaction which was that my jaw dropped and I said quite literally "WOW". It's got so much texture at all levels of sound. The highs are clear, mid's punch, and the bass is surreal. I'm not doing it justice with this basic description, but I am seriously in awe of how capable these are. I have barely scratched the surface but am excited to listen to everything all over again just to "feel" the music again. Very impressive.

I'd be interested in knowing how these compare to something like the highly regarded Andromeda's for what it's worth. I know they are most likely going to be compared to the Vega's but I'd still be interested in someone briefly highlighting the differences for me. I have been toying with the idea of picking up Andromeda's for awhile and wonder what if anything they could offer that I wouldn't find in the Atlas if anyone who has heard both feels like sharing.

What source are you running them on? Can they be used on an iPhone for example?
 

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