NEW - Campfire Comet and Atlas
Apr 4, 2018 at 8:08 AM Post #46 of 3,483
Every time I have filled out a survey for Campfire, I have asked for an entry level model so we can introduce Campfire products to new folks without having to spend an amount they are not comfortable with. Thank You Ken and company!!!!! My order for the Comet will be on your desk as soon as the next paycheck hits the bank. I am super excited about what the Comet may mean to the sub-$300 market as the arrival of Campfire should be a cue for others to step up or get out.
 
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Apr 4, 2018 at 8:33 AM Post #47 of 3,483
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Apr 4, 2018 at 8:49 AM Post #48 of 3,483

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Apr 4, 2018 at 9:25 AM Post #49 of 3,483
The pace of new products coming out is quite impressive, I am not sure if that is a good thing.

What I am sure is a great thing, is that in this world of eye gouging price increases, Campfire are keeping prices of their TOTL level, which makes me feel like their are not taking us for fools, like many other brands I will not name, some of them including numbers in their brand name.
 
Apr 4, 2018 at 9:36 AM Post #50 of 3,483
The pace of new products coming out is quite impressive, I am not sure if that is a good thing.

What I am sure is a great thing, is that in this world of eye gouging price increases, Campfire are keeping prices of their TOTL level, which makes me feel like their are not taking us for fools, like many other brands I will not name, some of them including numbers in their brand name.
Or ones who have an applause in their name. Or ones who can see out of their ears.
 
Apr 4, 2018 at 10:06 AM Post #55 of 3,483
You are right. The best JVC earphone is less than half price and goes from 6 Hz-52000 Khz. Just an example.
I prefer to have the highest specifications possible when paying a premium price and what human can hear has nothing to do with it.

I like your approach. As long as it is good on paper the sound will be fine
 
Apr 4, 2018 at 12:19 PM Post #56 of 3,483
I think normal human hearing range is ranged from 20Hz to 20kHz. Even it is high res certified, no one can hear from 20kHz onward I guess. Just guessing! :)

Hi Young_shun,

You are correct, average adult hearing is in the 20 20 range.
Side note, some audio specialists argue 20 khz is not technically high res but that's another story & not for here.

Frequencies below & above the 20 20 can be felt which is why a lot of manufactuers use that average range nor does this take into account driver tuning, etc.
 
Apr 4, 2018 at 12:26 PM Post #57 of 3,483
Hi Young_shun,

You are correct, average adult hearing is in the 20 20 range.
Side note, some audio specialists argue 20 khz is not technically high res but that's another story & not for here.

Frequencies below & above the 20 20 can be felt which is why a lot of manufactuers use that average range nor does this take into account driver tuning, etc.
In my experience, there are recordings/versions that are definitely above my hearing range, but I think listening to music does not limit itself to hearing.
There are definitely 24 bit version I would prefer over any 16 bit version of the same album, same producer, same mix, same whatever. My way of looking at it is that the high-res experience is in some cases more a thing of the body as a whole rather than just a hearing/listening thing.
I don't know if I made myself clear, but it definitely is something I have gone through.
 
Apr 4, 2018 at 12:39 PM Post #58 of 3,483
In my experience, there are recordings/versions that are definitely above my hearing range, but I think listening to music does not limit itself to hearing.
There are definitely 24 bit version I would prefer over any 16 bit version of the same album, same producer, same mix, same whatever. My way of looking at it is that the high-res experience is in some cases more a thing of the body as a whole rather than just a hearing/listening thing.
I don't know if I made myself clear, but it definitely is something I have gone through.

Agree with you AverageDude,

Feeling is very important in music or just sound in general & often misunderstood, certainly, higher quality sources do make a difference, though the question often is whether one can really hear it, feel it or both.
 
Apr 4, 2018 at 4:02 PM Post #59 of 3,483
You are right. The best JVC earphone is less than half price and goes from 6 Hz-52000 Khz. Just an example.
I prefer to have the highest specifications possible when paying a premium price and what human can hear has nothing to do with it.
I wouldn’t let that effect your opinion on an iem there is no way anyone can hear that and it can be used as just a marketing gimmick. 20 to 20 is what someone who has all their hearing tends to be at most people especially with age cannot even hear close to 20khz. Maybe 15-16
 

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