"It's been a long time since I've heard the 25s."
But you are so very adamant that the Amperiors best them in every way possible I thought you had tons of hours with them? A bit of stealth trolling for the Amps and pretending like you are down without seeming out of place? That's what I see anyway and of course I am fine with that just tell us how you really feel because your posts are very confusing. Read over them once. You call the DT pretty special in one sentence and then trash them as being pretty much low end compared to the mighty Amperiors which many people are not enthralled with. I am not even sure people think the original 25s are better or worse at this point.
Again, I have to bring up Tyll's review again and all of this seems like fanboy Senn hype to me. It's all in good fun though I guess.
I cannot let that gigantic midbass hump go though. I guess that is how people like their music these days?
The Amperiors are another overrated product that Apple can sell and make bajillions on imo. I have owned the 25s at one point but just sent them back they are not audiophile headphones to me. I kind of liked them but decided they did not fit me quite right and could not get over their frequency range. I don't plan on owning the others especially what amounts to the ipod version of the HD25. As I said I cannot stand the look of the Amps and would never buy them on that alone.
I will try the Amps again when I shoot by a store but to me there is simply no way in hell they are 150 dollars or pretty much twice the price better than the 25s if you can find a great sale. They are meant to be sold at Apple for high price and nothing more imo just like all their products.
If my opinions change on next visit I would definitely amend those feelings. As for now I don't believe a word from most of the Senn crowd as usual. Obviously, I don't have enough time with them to properly judge but I don't know how much time I can give them. They should be plenty broken in from store visits and I doubt my home amp is going to make much difference with their ridiculously low 18 ohm resistance. I have been getting away from low resistant phones like that for damping factor and don't really plan on going back.
From Tyll on some Beyer comparisons of resistance: Higher impedance headphones will give you a higher damping factor for a given amplifier. Using a lower impedance headphone than necessary means that your damping factor will be lower, and the resulting sound will be less “tight.”
The HD25 never sounded tight to me when driven by my Denon amp but I think that was because of the midbass lol. They were 70 ohm I believe. So how do these Amperiors do so well then? Is the engineering somehow overcoming itself? I don't believe this. The DTs have an uncanny knack for very low distortion even when pressed with some serious bass from a home amp and stellar recording.
Honestly, I am sticking with the DTs. I don't have any more money, or really any liking, to shop around for different pairs. My next headphones will be full cans. The supra ones are done for me as these are pretty much what I wanted from the start. 80 ohm to me is the perfect resistance for portable/home headphones. Anything less would be uncivilized.
