[OrbitingCow]

I think for Smiths I am enjoying their mid/later albums a lot. I'm liking Strangeways... and The Queen... right now.
 
Also, if people want a low end workout on these, Morphine's The Night does a tremendous job. Top Floor, Bottom Buzzer could easily run them into the ground if I went too high. That album is one of the best imo.

 

[robm321]

I went to the Apple store to listen to the Senn Amperiors over the weekend. I tried to listen but the sales guy just sat there and stared at me. Try critically listening to anything while someone is starring at you. Its awkward to say the least. I realized that this wasn't going to work, so I just bought them with the idea of either returning the DT1350s or Senns after comparing both.
 
My initial impressions of splashy highs and congested bass gave me the hope that they would suck compared to the 1350s, but it wasn't that easy. After some burn in, I am now stuck on liking both of them making for a tough decision. I'm about 17 hours into the burn in.
 
I'll do a bunch of A and Bing and try to figure it out. Tyll's review makes a lot of sense now that I've heard these, and I think he was spot on with the sound which he usually is. The one area that I will disagree is that the Amperiors handily beat the 1350s. I wish that were so. It would make my decision much easier. They are both excellent in their respective ways, and I would say it comes down to preference. I would agree with Tyll that the M80 is handily beat by both of these phones, however.

 

[roma101]

Have you heard the HD25 to compare by any chance? Also I would imagine the isolation of the Amperior is not as good as the DTs or HD25 because of the velour pads - can you confirm this? Looking forward to your impressions.

As I post this, I'm currently listening to my DTs, coming to appreciate them as much as my M-80s for different reasons.

 

[desmoface]

Strangeways, that was near the end for the Smiths...great stuff all the same. I loves me some "Girlfriend in a coma." The Queen is dead," is one of my all time favorite albums.

I also made the trip to the local apple store in search of the ever elusive Amperior's; of course they didn't have them, but the salesman tried to sell me on the merits of Bose cans, lol.

Fortunately, I scored a pair of Amperiors on our own "for sale" section for a fair price. Should have them by Friday.

Steve

 

[skyline315]

The HD25s aren't bad heaphones.  They just didn't sound as "refined" to me as the 1350s did.  A tad harsher, not as emphasized in the midrange, and a bass that didn't really wow me.  
 
On the other hand, they fit very well and there certainly weren't any problems at all with comfort or seal.
 
Like robm said, and like most things audio, it really just comes down to personal preference.  
 
I haven't heard the Amperior, but I'm a pretty big skeptic that there was a significant change in sound.

 

[roma101]

Right I found the HD25s to be great all-rounders however I would agree with the slight lack of refinement vs. the DT 1350 and M-80. The sound was congested however the tonality was pretty decent. I am just wondering how big the improvements are with the Amperior vs. HD25 - my gut instinct tells me it's not a huge one.

 

[Focker]

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Right I found the HD25s to be great all-rounders however I would agree with the slight lack of refinement vs. the DT 1350 and M-80. The sound was congested however the tonality was pretty decent. I am just wondering how big the improvements are with the Amperior vs. HD25 - my gut instinct tells me it's not a huge one.

 
 
I agree, especially since Sennheisers own rep said it's not a huge difference in sound. Im really looking forward to Apples deal expiring, so hopefully the price will come down and I can pick up a pair to play with. I've been wanting to add a sennheiser phone to my little group here, but after my experience with the 518s I haven't been all that rushed to give the higher end models an audition. 

 

[giveit2menow]

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Right I found the HD25s to be great all-rounders however I would agree with the slight lack of refinement vs. the DT 1350 and M-80. The sound was congested however the tonality was pretty decent. I am just wondering how big the improvements are with the Amperior vs. HD25 - my gut instinct tells me it's not a huge one.

can you also compare them to the ath-es10 you have? I found the es10's to be too forward and too punchy. Would prefer something more relaxing but can bring it when needed. tx.

 

[freakfingers12]

Hi fellas, I've been thinking of getting these or the M-80s to be my main go-to headphone.
I listen to mostly rock, metal, jazz and folk (vocal-centric).
Thing is there's a promo "buy a DT1350 free one headphone," and I think it's a steal.
 
Please look at my thread to know more. 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/623698/grado-sr60i-v-moda-m-80-m-100-vs-beyer-dt1350-srh-750-dj
 
Would really like to hear what you guys think about this. I really can't decide. 

 

[skyline315]

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Hi fellas, I've been thinking of getting these or the M-80s to be my main go-to headphone.
I listen to mostly rock, metal, jazz and folk (vocal-centric).
Thing is there's a promo "buy a DT1350 free one headphone," and I think it's a steal.
 
Please look at my thread to know more. 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/623698/grado-sr60i-v-moda-m-80-m-100-vs-beyer-dt1350-srh-750-dj
 
Would really like to hear what you guys think about this. I really can't decide. 

I (and a few others) posted some comparisons to the M80s a few pages back in this thread.  If you don't mind digging, I think you'll find some useful info.

 

[OrbitingCow]

To be honest I think the Ameriors are good but the low/midbass bump is really not my thing. I'd have to hear them again in a critical listening position to really get at them. 350 is also too much for little buds for me. 300 was almost crossing the line and the make up of those Amperiors looks even cheaper.
 
One thing is for certain: there is no way in hell they are handily beating anything about the DT1350s especially with nice amps. I think Tyll had no idea what he was talking about there and I am pretty sure he either didn't have a great seal or did not listen to his headphones much. His graph also shows a two dB discrepancy or more between drivers which possibly could be from the way he measures I have not a clue but I don't have that.
 
If you are just looking for portable only then the amps may be a good option although I think they look like a piece of junk and that is just my opinion. There is also no way in hell I could bend them to suit my head which I can do so easily with the DTs and no one could notice.
 
Honestly that 350 pricetag just bothers the hell out of me. What's next 400? 450? for smaller headphones?
 
As for the Modas man it is my opinion you should just go DT or Amperior if you want the better sound especially with folk or guitars I would go DT. The Amperior seems to be a slight midbass boost which some may enjoy.
 
Also, the warmth of the DTs that Tyll mentions is also why I love them even when blaring at TOP volume these things just sing. All the more reason why I think his Amperior review was hastily written. He probably doesn't even remember what the DTs sound like lol. He reviews a lot of headphones and I seriously doubt he listens to any of the small sealed ones very often. Also, I still cannot get that graph of the 2dB discrepancy between channels out of my head. I wonder if it has to do with how he measured them or if they were really a bit off.
 
Looking forward to more opinions on the Amperiors. I would however note they are 18 ohm IIRC and can be driven much easier than the DTs.
 
18 v 80 is a huge difference imo and may be the deciding factor for people who need them on the go. Still, they are so damn ugly. Also, for people like me who need the greatest ability to withstand volume the Amps are 9dB less than the DTs which is significant.

 

[mrAdrian]

Just felt like chiming in and say that everyone can have their own opinion, and there's no reason saying bad things to Tyll's thoughts of the DT1350 vs Senn Amperiors. You can express your own impressions, you can maybe pm Tyll asking him reasons of his conclusions (in a polite way hopefully, the man deserves a lot of respect), but there's really no point back talking about his review.

 

[skyline315]

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Just felt like chiming in and say that everyone can have their own opinion, and there's no reason saying bad things to Tyll's thoughts of the DT1350 vs Senn Amperiors. You can express your own impressions, you can maybe pm Tyll asking him reasons of his conclusions (in a polite way hopefully, the man deserves a lot of respect), but there's really no point back talking about his review.

 
Yeah, he's a good and insightful guy doing good things for the community.
 
I think he simply gets overexcited when he runs across a new headphone that he likes.  When he reviewed the 1350s, he couldn't have praised them more highly.  Then, he gets excited about the Amperiors and says that they handily best the 1350s, etc.  I think most of us find this a bit inconsistent, but like a lot of us, he's just really amped about hearing a headphone that he enjoys.  Please pardon the intentional pun
 
Rather than nitpicking over one or two sentences from his reviews, I think we should just be looking at overall impressions.  In this case...both headphones are pretty awesome as far as he's concerned. 

 

[Focker]

Tyll is apparently also on record as being a Sennheiser homer. That doesn't mean his reviews are dishonest, but I think it might mean that Senns get a few extra points on the score card before he even puts them on his head. Nothing wrong with that, as long as  you're honest about it...and from what I understand, he usually is. 
 
I definitely agree with the Cow about the price tag, though...no way I'm paying that much for Amperiors....when they're under three bills, though, I'll be happy to give a listen.  I have absolutely no desire to replace my 1350s, though, so it wouldn't be for that purpose that I bought a pair....but I would love to find a nice pair of portables to hook a lady friend up with that is different than what I already have. 

 

[plakat]

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Yeah, he's a good and insightful guy doing good things for the community.
 
I think he simply gets overexcited when he runs across a new headphone that he likes.  When he reviewed the 1350s, he couldn't have praised them more highly.  Then, he gets excited about the Amperiors and says that they handily best the 1350s, etc.  I think most of us find this a bit inconsistent, but like a lot of us, he's just really amped about hearing a headphone that he enjoys.  Please pardon the intentional pun
 
Rather than nitpicking over one or two sentences from his reviews, I think we should just be looking at overall impressions.  In this case...both headphones are pretty awesome as far as he's concerned. 

I like Tylls reviews very much, not only him being enthusiastic about headphones (I like to see people loving their job) but also because his taste seems to be quite like mine: I have yet to be disappointed by something he recommends.
 
The differences between the 1350 and the HD-25 (didn't hear the Amperior yet) are in part a matter of taste (as always, of course), overall I consider their signatures to fall into the same category of taste. I for one prefer the 1350 most of the time due to the slight midbass hump of the HD-25, still I like the Sennheiser better for some titles (and for DJing). So I'd rather not overrate Tylls preference for one or the other changing over time: it's about the same for me... switching back and forth.