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New Audio-gd R7 (R2R 7) & R8 Flagship Resistor Ladder DACs

Discussion in 'High-end Audio Forum' started by Currawong, Jun 30, 2017.
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  1. FredA
    Nothing can make up for a deficient source if you want the best sound. Getting better, more revealing equipement downstream will only make things worse. Not implying the x20 is bad but probably not good enough for your setup and not a good match.

    Any recommendation for inexpensive xlr from China? Was looking at Bada and others.
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2017
  2. fire2368
    Had a read through the thread and couldn't seem to find a definite answer. Between this and the Yggy, what would be the go to? I can't audition this one, so I'm hoping to go off someone elses judgement. I'm trying to upgrade from the Chord QBD76 HDSD.
  3. ciphercomplete
    We are all waiting on Currawong's final review.
  4. Currawong Contributor
    IMO, if you're upgrading from a Chord, get another Chord DAC, like the Hugo 2. The presentation is somewhat different.
  5. FredA
    The r2r 7 is more customizable. And it could be even more so in the future with firmware upgrades. The r2r 7 is my third 3-transfo dac from audio-gd. I am a very happy customer.

    Go read the 6 moon review comparing the yggdrasil to the terminator and Holo. Read also the r2r 7 and r2r 7 he reviews of our fellow headfier from the Netherlands. Read between the lines. The r2r 7 combines accuracy and musicality in an exceptional manner.

    Consider matching your current gears as well. I have dead neutral speakers. The audio-gd gears bring some smoothness to the party without being syrupy. The two dacs are very close to one another. It's more a matter of tastes and match. And trust in the quality of the product. The audio-gd fit and finish is not top notch but has improved in the last years. Built quality inside is excellent. The yggdrasil is better finished but cheaper inside from what we see in the pictures.
  6. wink
    Gey the YGGY with Gen 5 USB.... :ksc75smile:
  7. FredA
    Done some tweaking on my setup.

    I have removed the Gallo 3.1's tweak that consist in placing a 15 ohm resistor on the second set of binding posts meant for the woofer's sub-bass coil (adds some bass when removing it).

    I put the Audio Art ic-3 between the pre and monoblocks (the nfb-1amp is now hooked with a mogami cable terminated with gold-plated neutriks).

    I have put my biggest available power cord between the main power distributor and the balanced isolation transfo feeding all my signal level gears.

    I have upgraded the power cable on the r2r 7.

    The bass is now more generous and my amps are not working as hard which translate into better mids and high, giving me the same sound quality as i had throught the nfb-1amp, only more transparent. I think i will be a happy camper for quite a while. I got rid of some harshness that i assume came from my too hard working amps. I knew this was not caused by the r2r 7 since i had no issue with the headphones. Sometimes, you have to be persistent.
  8. DACLadder
    I’ve been out of the loop for a while but has there been any R2R 7 vs Singularity 7 comparison?
  9. FredA
    Not really. Not much happening with that regard. Meanwhile, Audio-Gd is shipping like crazy. The first batch of r2r 11 is sold out. Plus they released a new Precision 3 budget amplifier.
  10. DACLadder
    Thanks @FredA. Seems what I can determine is the S7 is warmer where the R2R 7 is perhaps more accurate/ clinical. S7 may have more bass if that is important. S7 users (tiny few that reported) like the" accurate" firmware upgrade but may be too much of a good thing for the R2R 7. I have the DSP upgrade files but my equipment (S7 and M7S) is packed as I am moving to a new location. So trying to gauge what to expect on the S7 types.

    Kingwa has been a busy man this year... Starting with the S7 shipments in January '17.
  11. FredA
    Possibly more clinical but with a more developed medium and more accuracy compared the last M7 iteration. But i would not call it clinical. Audio-gd builds musical devices. Just more accurate than before as far as dacs are concerned.

    Kingwa has upgraded most of his line of products and sales have increased. His direct competition probably can't keep up. This is quite fantastic.
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2017
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  12. FredA
    Listening to Patricia Barber's Nightclub, Just for a thrill. Very coherent with rich medium and liquid treble. Could use a tad more bass but i am still burning my new power cable and interconnect. Compared to the m7, the treble has gained smoothness. It's significant. Turntable highs but more resolved. What more can you ask?
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  13. FredA
    I don't like sounding like i am doing plugs, but the Audio Art ic-3 balanced interconnect is unbelievably good for under 100$. No weak point whatsoever. I don't feel like i am making any compromise with it.
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2017
  14. FredA
    Now that i remember, gk2013 posted short impressions comparing the Terminator, m7, m7s and r2r 7. Check post number 451. Good stuff.
  15. DACLadder
    @FredA. Thanks Fred. I am going to have to give a listen to the R2R 7 someday. How many do you think have sold since it started shipping?
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