FlavioWolff
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Hello guys.
Some of you know how much time I spent on researching what earphone/headphone I would purchase in July. Well, time has come, and I got myself the Yuin PK1 and a Headsix, thus spending the same money I would spend on the Triple.Fi 10 Pro alone.
Now that I have my PK1, I loved it so much that a friend of mine (fhissataka on head-fi) decided to loan me his Triple.Fi for a couple of weeks, so I could compare it to my PK1. It arrived today, and I will post my impressions here, and will update my thoughts during all my experience.
When I first saw the Triple, I thought: "Well, this isn't as giant as people say it is", and inserted them (with Comply tips on it) in my ears, no flipflop modding, and it sit there so comfortably that I could forget I had them on, if it wasn't for the stiff cable. Isolation was great, seal was perfect, so I put some songs on.
The first thing I noticed is that bass was more powerful, and maybe deeper than PK1's. I kept listening, and when I reached "Just Feel Better" (Santana Ft. Steven Tyler), a song that I am very familiar to with the PK1, I noticed that the Triple.Fi was sibilant. So sibilant that I couldn't listen to the entire song without making pain faces.
After listening to 10 songs on the Triple.Fi, I thought that the bass was very present, vocals were a bit recessed (on a particular song, War Pigs by Faith No More, MUCH recessed), and highs were somewhat similar to PK1's, but more sibilant. Paradise City from Gn'R's drum intro had an awesome drum decay with the Triple, but had the same great decay with the PK1. Matt Sorum's Drum solo on the 1991 Tokyo concert was awesome with both phones. These statements confirms that both are great for drums.
Then, I decided to listen to the Triples with my headsix (until then, it was straight from my X-Fi). With low gain enabled, bass was more controled, and sibilance set down somewhat, but was still there. With high gain, it was so sibilant that Axl Rose almost made my ears bleed on Paradise City (Lossless, of course).
Then I put my PK1 back, and clearly notice the differences. PK1's bass is a bit shier than Triple.Fi's, but is still very present, you won't miss it. Mids are less recessed, and upper mids are much more controlled, I can't notice any sibilance with the PK1 at all. Highs were very similar. Instrument separation and soundstage is much superior on the PK1: on "Hotel California", from Hell Freezes Over by The Eagles, I can separate each instrument much easier on the PK1's than on the Triple, and everything is more ample.
Well guys, that's it. Sorry for the long reading and somewhat unstructured review, this is my first one. I will sure update my thoughts, I have one or two weeks more to listen to the Triples.
Of course, isolation is a big plus for the Triples.
Considering that the Triple.Fi's price is around $350, and PK1 is around $160, the PK1 has a much better value than Triples. But keep in mind that you need an amp to enjoy the PK1 on all it's potential.
Update: Triple.Fi with UE Silicon Tips hasn't as much bass as PK1. Comply foam makes it bassier, probably because of better seal. PK1 with Full Cover Donut Foam has increased bass, and no loss of details IMO. That means: Silicon tips suck! Use complies, or whatever, but skip those silicon tips. They reduce Triple.fi's potential much.
Edit: You can reach a nice bass if you get a nice seal, which is a hard job with the silicon tips.
Update 2: Some pics of both being worn:
Update 3: After some more listening time, I realized that Triple.Fi has something that PK1 lacks: deep bass. I mean bass that reaches your stomach through your brain. Some songs really showed that. Hip-hop is very pleasing to hear with Triple.Fi, but so is with PK1. I think both cans rock with all musical styles.
Update 4: My ZY Hi-End LOD arrived from Head-Direct. I had like 5 minutes of battery life on my headsix, but it was enough for me to realize that the lineout of my iPod is superior and delivers deeper bass than my X-Fi. Now my batteries are gone, and while I wait for my rechargeables to come, my PK1 is getting burned with Pink Noise. I hope I can burn it for 100 hours.
Update 5: Burn-in is concluded (over 120 hours), and the sound did improve. It's more detailed, and bass got more control and accuracy. I'm loving it.
I made an extense comparison of the PK1 against my Sony EX90, and my conclusion is that the EX90 has almost no soundstage when compared to the PK1, the sound is thin and somewhat enclosed in a stretched line, while the PK1's sound goes on an enlarged line. Hope it was clear to understand. Also, the EX90 is way more sibilant than the PK1, and still revealing much less treble details. Bass is tremendously bigger, deeper and more impactful on the PK1, never overwhelming the sweet midrange it is known for. EX90's mids were more proeminent than PK1's, but also with less details. Axl Rose's voice, for example, is way more detailed on the PK1, I can even hear some grasping that the EX90 couldn't reveal.
That's it, thank you.
Some of you know how much time I spent on researching what earphone/headphone I would purchase in July. Well, time has come, and I got myself the Yuin PK1 and a Headsix, thus spending the same money I would spend on the Triple.Fi 10 Pro alone.
Now that I have my PK1, I loved it so much that a friend of mine (fhissataka on head-fi) decided to loan me his Triple.Fi for a couple of weeks, so I could compare it to my PK1. It arrived today, and I will post my impressions here, and will update my thoughts during all my experience.
When I first saw the Triple, I thought: "Well, this isn't as giant as people say it is", and inserted them (with Comply tips on it) in my ears, no flipflop modding, and it sit there so comfortably that I could forget I had them on, if it wasn't for the stiff cable. Isolation was great, seal was perfect, so I put some songs on.
The first thing I noticed is that bass was more powerful, and maybe deeper than PK1's. I kept listening, and when I reached "Just Feel Better" (Santana Ft. Steven Tyler), a song that I am very familiar to with the PK1, I noticed that the Triple.Fi was sibilant. So sibilant that I couldn't listen to the entire song without making pain faces.
After listening to 10 songs on the Triple.Fi, I thought that the bass was very present, vocals were a bit recessed (on a particular song, War Pigs by Faith No More, MUCH recessed), and highs were somewhat similar to PK1's, but more sibilant. Paradise City from Gn'R's drum intro had an awesome drum decay with the Triple, but had the same great decay with the PK1. Matt Sorum's Drum solo on the 1991 Tokyo concert was awesome with both phones. These statements confirms that both are great for drums.
Then, I decided to listen to the Triples with my headsix (until then, it was straight from my X-Fi). With low gain enabled, bass was more controled, and sibilance set down somewhat, but was still there. With high gain, it was so sibilant that Axl Rose almost made my ears bleed on Paradise City (Lossless, of course).
Then I put my PK1 back, and clearly notice the differences. PK1's bass is a bit shier than Triple.Fi's, but is still very present, you won't miss it. Mids are less recessed, and upper mids are much more controlled, I can't notice any sibilance with the PK1 at all. Highs were very similar. Instrument separation and soundstage is much superior on the PK1: on "Hotel California", from Hell Freezes Over by The Eagles, I can separate each instrument much easier on the PK1's than on the Triple, and everything is more ample.
Well guys, that's it. Sorry for the long reading and somewhat unstructured review, this is my first one. I will sure update my thoughts, I have one or two weeks more to listen to the Triples.
Of course, isolation is a big plus for the Triples.
Considering that the Triple.Fi's price is around $350, and PK1 is around $160, the PK1 has a much better value than Triples. But keep in mind that you need an amp to enjoy the PK1 on all it's potential.
Update: Triple.Fi with UE Silicon Tips hasn't as much bass as PK1. Comply foam makes it bassier, probably because of better seal. PK1 with Full Cover Donut Foam has increased bass, and no loss of details IMO. That means: Silicon tips suck! Use complies, or whatever, but skip those silicon tips. They reduce Triple.fi's potential much.
Edit: You can reach a nice bass if you get a nice seal, which is a hard job with the silicon tips.
Update 2: Some pics of both being worn:
Update 3: After some more listening time, I realized that Triple.Fi has something that PK1 lacks: deep bass. I mean bass that reaches your stomach through your brain. Some songs really showed that. Hip-hop is very pleasing to hear with Triple.Fi, but so is with PK1. I think both cans rock with all musical styles.
Update 4: My ZY Hi-End LOD arrived from Head-Direct. I had like 5 minutes of battery life on my headsix, but it was enough for me to realize that the lineout of my iPod is superior and delivers deeper bass than my X-Fi. Now my batteries are gone, and while I wait for my rechargeables to come, my PK1 is getting burned with Pink Noise. I hope I can burn it for 100 hours.
Update 5: Burn-in is concluded (over 120 hours), and the sound did improve. It's more detailed, and bass got more control and accuracy. I'm loving it.
I made an extense comparison of the PK1 against my Sony EX90, and my conclusion is that the EX90 has almost no soundstage when compared to the PK1, the sound is thin and somewhat enclosed in a stretched line, while the PK1's sound goes on an enlarged line. Hope it was clear to understand. Also, the EX90 is way more sibilant than the PK1, and still revealing much less treble details. Bass is tremendously bigger, deeper and more impactful on the PK1, never overwhelming the sweet midrange it is known for. EX90's mids were more proeminent than PK1's, but also with less details. Axl Rose's voice, for example, is way more detailed on the PK1, I can even hear some grasping that the EX90 couldn't reveal.
That's it, thank you.
