still I'd like to see the data for his findings on the... you know what... I honestly don't care... I just remember I read an article on the Schiit Happend thread... Jason talking about gear that measures HORRIFICALLY but sounds amazing. Point being objective data is great but it doesn't compare to just listening to it
still I'd like to see the objective data for the Geek 450 and the hm901... in all honesty I have my doubts he drove his HD 800 out of that little thing, which mind you pushes what 450mw into most likely a 32 ohm load, and if not his HD 800 then what is he using as a refrance? Because I would think with TOTL headphones the hm901 should be on par with if not a step above the Geek 450, both companies have made a great product and are marketing to different people, but what I love about Hifiman is Dr.Fang, dude seems like the total mad scientist but more importantly they are charging rather aggressivly forward, and rightly so as they are making some serious headway and really changing the audio game! For Eke to rather non chantly claim that this little device made by a group of dedicated audio engineers can out perform Hifimans Flag Ship DAP is a little... well it's a little ignorant to say, let's take into consideration that if the Geek 450 is using DSP then yea chances are the sound stage is better, but that's an un fair comparision. Comparing hardware to software.
Not to mention there are others who seem to be taking his claims at face value, I'll re itterate this here. I bought the Mad Dog based on hype and rather bloated and un supported claims... I was rather disappointed by it, so if your going to as far as claiming a rather modesty priced and designed amp/dac is better than a TOTL DAP you'd better have some concrete evidance, I was one of those guys who took impression at face value... I got screwed and I was pretty up set by it. So forgive me for getting touchy when any one posts a rather bold statement. And this thread is starting to get long and draw in new readers, so it's gaining credibility. There for I think we'd better do our best to keep the claims and opinons we express as accurate as possible. I'd hate for some one who's thinking of getting a Hifiman Player, pass up a chance to score a used one because he wants to first try something in a couple price classes lower.
Going back to my Mad Dog debacle, I missed a couple of really GREAT deals on some great cans in the for sale threads here because I just HAD to have a Mad Dog
So yea... you want to deThrone a TOTL player, you'd better make sure your backing your word up! Cuz those kinds of bloated and vague statements waste peoples time and money :[
and it's 7:32 am, I've been on my pc WAY to long... I'm going to log off. And Eke feel free to send me some hate mail via Pm if you'd like xD. I need a custom title refering to me as Head Fi's punching bag or something lol, my point being I apologize for being rash, I'm some what cranky and I'm more than likely making assumptions of you that aren't 100% true... but either way do forgive me and do back up your rather out landish claims <3 for a guy whos been doing all his demos by
Matching DB lvl by ear [going back to the first post]
and using an IEM to refrance [ a rather nice one so I can't really say anything there]
I'd just like to see some more support for Eke's claim, espicially the latest one that the Geek 450 is hands above the HM901 with his Aurisonics ASG-2, there's a small part of me thinking my HE 4 would sound a heck of a lot better out of my hm801 and ibasso Pb2 than the Geek 450... but again circumstances. the Aurisonics ASG-2 is not the HE 4, so for an iem user, the Geek 450 may honestly be a TOTAL Steal, but when you make a claim that something so inexpensive is SO much better than something SO expensive, again when you aim to dethrone, the more detail the better
On that note, again feel free to punch me in the face or what ever lol, as I've been up to long and being honest with a guy I feel can take it, and grow from it. As Brooko is pretty brutally honest with me, and I'm the better for it, so you know I feel I ought to share the love... and with that it is time for SLEEP