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Yes, to quote the context of this line here's what it was responding to:
zachchen:
True, but some reviewers say that they liked it more than the emm labs dac2x, at around 15K is more than twice as expensive, that's impressive! Some people also have said that they like the analog dac more than the vega, saying that the msb sounded overall more natural etc
Radio_head
I would agree with those who like it more than the DAC2X. That doesn't mean spending MSB money is necessarily a value proposition though.
This kind of ties in to ongoing conversations elsewhere, logically I wouldn't call my 12K DAC a bargain because it beats out a 15K one. This is a classic tactic used where someone will advertise or state "better than competitors X times the price" - but it could be worse than one half the price. Its kind of meaningless to say it was compared favorably to one other more expensive product and all of a sudden that makes it a bargain. A mere logical point, one I try to make when discussing the relativism of "value" in this hobby. It is what I have been looking for for a long time in a DAC though, so for me worth the money.
I don't think I'll have time for another round of thoughts like that for a while, wrote the ECP post while recovering from surgery. I at least did my duty posting some pretty pictures and a line or two after a month of ownership though.
Currently using Electra/009, sold the KGSSHV, BHSE, and LL1. May also pick up an LL2 for the stat rig soon depending. Dynamic headphone rig is currently all of Doug's amps with a Leviathan on order, HD800/LCD-3/HP1000/R10 (all modded) with JH13FP's and UERM's for CIEMs.
I'm not actually mean, I just made a mean face as a kid and it stuck. I hate it when parents are right.
zachchen:
True, but some reviewers say that they liked it more than the emm labs dac2x, at around 15K is more than twice as expensive, that's impressive! Some people also have said that they like the analog dac more than the vega, saying that the msb sounded overall more natural etc
Radio_head
I would agree with those who like it more than the DAC2X. That doesn't mean spending MSB money is necessarily a value proposition though.
This kind of ties in to ongoing conversations elsewhere, logically I wouldn't call my 12K DAC a bargain because it beats out a 15K one. This is a classic tactic used where someone will advertise or state "better than competitors X times the price" - but it could be worse than one half the price. Its kind of meaningless to say it was compared favorably to one other more expensive product and all of a sudden that makes it a bargain. A mere logical point, one I try to make when discussing the relativism of "value" in this hobby. It is what I have been looking for for a long time in a DAC though, so for me worth the money.
I don't think I'll have time for another round of thoughts like that for a while, wrote the ECP post while recovering from surgery. I at least did my duty posting some pretty pictures and a line or two after a month of ownership though.
Currently using Electra/009, sold the KGSSHV, BHSE, and LL1. May also pick up an LL2 for the stat rig soon depending. Dynamic headphone rig is currently all of Doug's amps with a Leviathan on order, HD800/LCD-3/HP1000/R10 (all modded) with JH13FP's and UERM's for CIEMs.
I'm not actually mean, I just made a mean face as a kid and it stuck. I hate it when parents are right.