Monoprice Monolith Liquid Platinum - By Alex Cavalli
Feb 5, 2019 at 1:25 PM Post #1,547 of 5,135
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Feb 5, 2019 at 3:42 PM Post #1,551 of 5,135
Is the Schiit Sys, comparable to the Nobsound?
The big issue with NS-05P is use of a 50K pot instead of 10K. High end roll off issues would be eliminated if Nobsound changed the Alps to a 10K pot.
Schiit Sys uses a 10K pot.

All passive attenuator pots have imbalance issues at high attenuation. Stepped attenuators are the way to eliminate this issue.
 
Feb 5, 2019 at 3:44 PM Post #1,552 of 5,135
The big issue with NS-05P is use of a 50K pot instead of 10K. High end roll off issues would be eliminated if Nobsound changed the Alps to a 10K pot.
Schiit Sys uses a 10K pot.

All passive attenuator pots have imbalance issues at high attenuation. Stepped attenuators are the way to eliminate this issue.
So the Sys is better, than the Nobsound? If i already own the Sys, is it worth it to get the Nobsound, or is the Sys just as good?
 
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Feb 5, 2019 at 4:05 PM Post #1,553 of 5,135
Schiit Sys will measure better than NS-05P when attenuation is between 1 and 20 dB.

NS-05P has advantages of balanced inputs and outputs. If intended for balanced use with 20dB or greater attenuation, then NS-05P has advantages.

Whether all this means either will sound better than the other is highly dependent on use model and also subjective.
 
Feb 5, 2019 at 4:07 PM Post #1,554 of 5,135
Gain is way too high with my LP and Gumby (very little play on the amp volume control. Any of you guys using something in the chain to compensate balanced set up?

On my tube dac, I have a volume control on it to add some real movement on LP volume control.
Lots of chatter about this here and over there. I'm currently using an Emotiva XSP-1, but shopping for a passive preamp.
My Gumby/LP is fine (balanced) with the 650s ... I'm somewhere between 9-12 on the dial.
Wow! Above 10, I'd be putting myself in the hospital on my HD-6xx. Although your Gumby has a bit less power than my Pontus (4Vrms vs 4.4Vrms). No way I could get near 12:00 on any of my cans.
 
Feb 5, 2019 at 4:36 PM Post #1,555 of 5,135
Schiit Sys will measure better than NS-05P when attenuation is between 1 and 20 dB.

NS-05P has advantages of balanced inputs and outputs. If intended for balanced use with 20dB or greater attenuation, then NS-05P has advantages.

Whether all this means either will sound better than the other is highly dependent on use model and also subjective.
Awesome! Thanks for this info.
 
Feb 5, 2019 at 6:01 PM Post #1,556 of 5,135
I guess SYS measurement shows no imbalance after 3 PM dial. However anything after 12 is not an issue. Only if we go below 12 there may be imbalance issue with SYS
 
Feb 6, 2019 at 10:26 PM Post #1,559 of 5,135
If there were ever a rev b of the LP, I think a gain switch would be an awesome addition.
Adjustable gain was in the original description of the amp when first announced, but obviously didn’t make the final product.
 
Feb 6, 2019 at 10:56 PM Post #1,560 of 5,135
Adjustable gain was in the original description of the amp when first announced, but obviously didn’t make the final product.
If there were ever a rev b of the LP, I think a gain switch would be an awesome addition.

Alex has stated a few reasons for only having 5x gain. One of which there wasn't any extra room to fit everything in that small of a form factor, so I doubt you'll see a mere revision with a gain switch.
 

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