i know right, ive been bouncing between my m1060c, argons and hd6xx's and man everytime i put on my m1060c's, im blown away. Running them on my emotiva and my god the base. Not argon base but good solid clean base, like almost argon status base but with the hd6xx clarity. They are by far my favorite headphones. To me they have the best of everything. Im not a huge rap fan but my buddy told me to listen to 21 savage A Lot. Man the base is ridiculous. and the classic song thats sampled on it, just wow.