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Mitchell & Johnson - Electrostatz, 2 way hybrid, Headphones Appreciation and Impressions Thread!

Discussion in 'Headphones (full-size)' started by barondla, Dec 5, 2016.
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  1. barondla
    @Astonish, haven't heard the MJ1, though I bought a pair as a gift. One user said they have less bass than MJ2 (he has both models). Recommended bass boost of 4db and a few db of treble cut for an amazingly well balanced sound.
  2. Sujay Rao
    Wow! That’s just amazing. I wonder if the screw being too tight is distorting the
    Wow! That’s amazing. Perhaps, tightening the screw all the way down distorts the driver casing and damps the diaphragm. Maybe, releasing the screw, allows the vibrating element move more easily. Great tip. Will try it for sure.
    BTW, what about extraneous vibrations? Do you think that this may become an issue if the screws are not tight enough?
    Also, about the burn in, this headphone is a barbecue machine. From 100 to 150, again from 150 to 200 the sound improved. Someone said 500 hours is about right. I should have bought these when I was 40. They’ll be done to a turn by the time I’m 60 !!
  3. RockStar2005
    Yeah I too would like to know how they sound vs. the original stock cable willsw.
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  5. willsw
    Unfortunately I don't have access to those headphones anymore, I just know the pinout for cables. I can't comment on how that cable or others would sound. All I know is that the original M&J cable seems designed to be as thin and cost-conscious as possible, and if you are driving your headphones from a source other than a phone it is very likely that improving the cable would result in overall improvements to the headphones' sound.
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  6. RockStar2005
    I C. Ok. I use my LG V30 which has an audiophile-quality DAC ("Quad DAC") and amp, so perhaps I'll just stick with that.

    But if you can recommend any good cables to buy online, I might be open to that too?
  7. willsw
    I have the V20 and it was a a very big step up from the phone I had when I last tested the MJ2. I don't know of anyone selling cables for the MJ2 and JP1, as they do have that unique pinout. I have no more of that braided cable I used in the other, but I could see how some other wire I have works.
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  8. RockStar2005
    Nice! Yeah I tested out the V20 too a while back. The V30's Quad DAC is supposed to be even better I believe.

    Unique pinout? Ok.

    Yeah that would be cool. I honestly don't know if I'd hear a difference though. I once bought this Sony cable and tried it out. Despite what other reviews said, I could NOT hear any difference with it, and I have tested my hearing and it's very good. But I might be open to what you have. Just depends.
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  9. willsw
    I don't know of any other headphone wired to both cups that uses TRS plugs wired for stereo on both sides to avoid needing left and right markings. When made for right and left sides, the two sides are wired differently.

    Here's a 5' cable I just made using 24awg, PTFE-coated silver-plated copper that I've been using for other headphone cables. It feels flexible enough to be used while mobile. If someone would like to try it at material cost, contact me.

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  10. RockStar2005
    That's cool willsw.

    How much is material cost, out of curiosity?
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  11. RockStar2005

    I wanted to revisit this post real quick to clarify...........with the cable you created and pictured/posted in here, did you notice that it sounded better than the stock cable?

    Also, why would it matter if you were using a phone or not with regards to if it makes a difference to use that custom cable? I'm just asking to make sure we're all on the same page is all. I know that most phones don't have the greatest audio chips in them, but we both know that's not always the case (i.e. LG, HTC 10, Huawei, and Sony too). lol

  12. willsw
    As I said, I don't have the headphones, so I am not able to compare cables.

    The source matters because a change in cable typically results in a very small change in sound, if there is a noticeable change at all. The source and the headphones both matter in how much difference a cable change can potentially have: the DAC, amp, and headphones need to be resolving enough to allow any cable change to be audible. Is the noise floor low enough, are the headphones adequately powered, are the headphones themselves detailed enough. Even with the V30's nice sound, you'd almost certainly get more out of an inexpensive/used external portable amp than a new cable.

    From another point of view, M&J headphones are among a small group of headphones that I would personally desire a new cable for just because I so dislike how the stock cables feel. Material appeal and aesthetic happiness are as legitimate as any other reasons to get a new cable.
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  13. RockStar2005
    Oh ok. I thought maybe you did a comparison while you had the MJ2s.

    I C. Ok. Yeah I couldn't agree more! The quality of the source device and headphones are critical to the overall quality of the sound.

    Ok........well those are perfectly reasonable preferences for wanting a new cable for sure! It looks like my MJ2s are coming in a few days early actually (today vs. Monday), so I guess I'll let them burn in over the weekend and see how they are on Sunday or else Monday. I got an open-box pair off Amazon for only $395. I figured since some ppl on here are saying they need like 200 hours of burn-in that open-box maybe makes more sense?! lol

  14. Benz-Fi
    I have the JP1's and purchased the silver custom cable from Willsw pictured earlier in the thread. I can definitely hear a difference from the stock cable. The custom cable makes brighter yet controlled highs and seemingly bigger soundstage while maintaining the tight and accurate bass that makes these electrostats sound so unique. This cable successfully maintains most of the sound signature while adding some additional range at high frequencies in a very subtle but apparent way which makes it hard to go back to the stock cable even for A-B testing.

    I should mention that I am using aftermarket Sheepskin earpads and have not had a chance to try the custom cable with the stock pads.

    Willsw--I'd love to try and compare any other cables you have, this one was impressive imho.
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  15. RockStar2005
    Wow! Awesome Benz-Fi! Thanks for the review! Much appreciated!! :L3000:

    Are you by chance referring to THESE Brainwavz Sheepskin earpads Benz?? I actually both them for my Meze 99 Classics a while back. Super ridiculously comfortable!
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