paul2qute
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Lol good questionChristmas 2018 or 2019?
Lol good questionChristmas 2018 or 2019?
Obvious a simple mistake. The answer is revealed later on.
I will have a chance to hear Empyrean in a local audio shop tomorrow. (also, lcd4, utopia, and etc) Can't wait to compare it side by side with Ether 2.
I am waiting patiently for someone to compare the DAVE (+) (-) HUGO Mscaler directly driving the Empyrean to the Hifiman HE 1000V2 and HE 1000se, build quality aside? And finally to the Abyss and Stax 009 (with Carbon)?I’m definitely eager to hear how they compare to the LCD4 and Ether 2.
I wrote a comparison with the LCD-4 not that long ago: https://medium.com/@koenromers/fight-for-the-throne-audeze-lcd-4-meze-empyrean-165c1740b027I’m definitely eager to hear how they compare to the LCD4 and Ether 2.
What about the sound stage extension between HE 1000 and Empyrean??Empyrean are much easer to drive, so it is better to listen to them directly from Dave, with HE1000 you can get some improvements with external amplifiers like 933.
HE1000 are brighter headphones, they lack flesh when compered to Meze.
Also wonder how the HE 1000se which are also easier to drive direct from DAVE, compare to the Empyrean?What about the sound stage extension between HE 1000 and Empyrean??
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I wrote a comparison with the LCD-4 not that long ago: https://medium.com/@koenromers/fight-for-the-throne-audeze-lcd-4-meze-empyrean-165c1740b027
Thanks for your experiences. I hope to demo it myself cause Adele or Diana Krall are my top two disliked singers.Unfortunately, my local audio shop didn't carry lcd4 and utopia.
Instead, it carried LCD4Z, D8000, along with Empyrean. I spent about 2 hours (fairly short IMO) to figure out their differences.
In the local audio shop, velour pads were default, so I didn't have a chance to try leather pads. As Jude prefers velour pads to leather pads, I assumed that velour pads were as good.
The bottom line is that I probably agree with you: LCD4Z plays at a higher level than Empyrean in the end to my ears.
LCD4Z and Ether 2 are tonally quite similar. But when I was switching back and forth empyrean with ether 2, tonal differences between Empyrean and Ether 2 were quite noticeable.
(I stopped listening d8000 after I noticed that piano solos in one of Diana Krall's song sound quite recessed. (sounded like just background music, not prominent as solos)).
Also, there are a few thing quite noticeable.
1. Empyrean had an immediate wow factor with a V-shaped FR (rich mid-bass in lower frequencies with fairly bright treble)
2. Vocals on Empyrean were recessed. (Song: Hello by Adele) Empyrean did create a sense of soundstage, but in a way by pushing vocals further away.
3. Female vocals like Adele or Diana Krall sounded quite smooth. But at the same time, Empyrean seemed to lose some inner details/resolution compared to Ether 2.
4. There was some unevenness in upper mid/lower treble. In that regard, I don't think it sounded as much clean as ether 2 or lcd4z.
5. Empyrean sounded a bit darker than Ether 2, though I already consider Ether 2 as neutral/warm. To my ears, somewhere in mids in Empyrean was too much dampened.
Overall, Empyrean sounded pretty good with rich mid-bass and smooth vocals. I agree that Empyrean is quite enjoyable, and I can see that a lot of people certainly love it.
However, in terms of pure sound quality/transparency/balance, I think that Empyrean is still a level below than LCD4z and Ether 2. Personally, I don't see myself paying 3k to this headphone, as lcd4z is a better option for what Empyrean can deliver, IMO. Indeed, I ended up spending more time with lcd4z as it turns out to be better than I initially thought.
Unfortunately, my local audio shop didn't carry lcd4 and utopia.
Instead, it carried LCD4Z, D8000, along with Empyrean. I spent about 2 hours (fairly short IMO) to figure out their differences.
In the local audio shop, velour pads were default, so I didn't have a chance to try leather pads. As Jude prefers velour pads to leather pads, I assumed that velour pads were as good.
The bottom line is that I probably agree with you: LCD4Z plays at a higher level than Empyrean in the end to my ears.
LCD4Z and Ether 2 are tonally quite similar. But when I was switching back and forth empyrean with ether 2, tonal differences between Empyrean and Ether 2 were quite noticeable.
(I stopped listening d8000 after I noticed that piano solos in one of Diana Krall's song sound quite recessed. (sounded like just background music, not prominent as solos)).
Also, there are a few thing quite noticeable.
1. Empyrean had an immediate wow factor with a V-shaped FR (rich mid-bass in lower frequencies with fairly bright treble)
2. Vocals on Empyrean were recessed. (Song: Hello by Adele) Empyrean did create a sense of soundstage, but in a way by pushing vocals further away.
3. Female vocals like Adele or Diana Krall sounded quite smooth. But at the same time, Empyrean seemed to lose some inner details/resolution compared to Ether 2.
4. There was some unevenness in upper mid/lower treble. In that regard, I don't think it sounded as much clean as ether 2 or lcd4z.
5. Empyrean sounded a bit darker than Ether 2, though I already consider Ether 2 as neutral/warm. To my ears, somewhere in mids in Empyrean was too much dampened.
Overall, Empyrean sounded pretty good with rich mid-bass and smooth vocals. I agree that Empyrean is quite enjoyable, and I can see that a lot of people certainly love it.
However, in terms of pure sound quality/transparency/balance, I think that Empyrean is still a level below than LCD4z and Ether 2. Personally, I don't see myself paying 3k to this headphone, as lcd4z is a better option for what Empyrean can deliver, IMO. Indeed, I ended up spending more time with lcd4z as it turns out to be better than I initially thought.
I haven't heard the Empyrean yet, but i had the 4Z for about 1 week and couldn't wait to get my Utopia back. I wasn't a fan.Unfortunately, my local audio shop didn't carry lcd4 and utopia.
Instead, it carried LCD4Z, D8000, along with Empyrean. I spent about 2 hours (fairly short IMO) to figure out their differences.
In the local audio shop, velour pads were default, so I didn't have a chance to try leather pads. As Jude prefers velour pads to leather pads, I assumed that velour pads were as good.
The bottom line is that I probably agree with you: LCD4Z plays at a higher level than Empyrean in the end to my ears.
LCD4Z and Ether 2 are tonally quite similar. But when I was switching back and forth empyrean with ether 2, tonal differences between Empyrean and Ether 2 were quite noticeable.
(I stopped listening d8000 after I noticed that piano solos in one of Diana Krall's song sound quite recessed. (sounded like just background music, not prominent as solos)).
Also, there are a few thing quite noticeable.
1. Empyrean had an immediate wow factor with a V-shaped FR (rich mid-bass in lower frequencies with fairly bright treble)
2. Vocals on Empyrean were recessed. (Song: Hello by Adele) Empyrean did create a sense of soundstage, but in a way by pushing vocals further away.
3. Female vocals like Adele or Diana Krall sounded quite smooth. But at the same time, Empyrean seemed to lose some inner details/resolution compared to Ether 2.
4. There was some unevenness in upper mid/lower treble. In that regard, I don't think it sounded as much clean as ether 2 or lcd4z.
5. Empyrean sounded a bit darker than Ether 2, though I already consider Ether 2 as neutral/warm. To my ears, somewhere in mids in Empyrean was too much dampened.
Overall, Empyrean sounded pretty good with rich mid-bass and smooth vocals. I agree that Empyrean is quite enjoyable, and I can see that a lot of people certainly love it.
However, in terms of pure sound quality/transparency/balance, I think that Empyrean is still a level below than LCD4z and Ether 2. Personally, I don't see myself paying 3k to this headphone, as lcd4z is a better option for what Empyrean can deliver, IMO. Indeed, I ended up spending more time with lcd4z as it turns out to be better than I initially thought.
If you don't mind my asking, what didn't you like? Not engaging...too much/too little of a certain frequency? Either way, after hearing Empyrean, I'm honestly not sure how much higher you can go....looking forward to your impressions.I haven't heard the Empyrean yet, but i had the 4Z for about 1 week and couldn't wait to get my Utopia back. I wasn't a fan.