Meze EMPYREAN - the First Isodynamic Hybrid Array Headphone
Jun 11, 2021 at 11:08 AM Post #10,231 of 10,238

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I am very happy I bought the Empyreans again. I tried using it with the Formula S, but I hear a faint electrical noise, as if the headhphone is too sensitive for the amp. So I plug it straight into the DAVE. And it sounds awesome!

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Dirk Ehlert – Elements (2017, File) - Discogs
 
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I am very happy I bought the Empyreans again. I tried using it with the Formula S, but I hear a faint electrical noise, as if the headhphone is too sensitive for the amp.
I believe it's normal behaviour of Formula S. Also happen with LCD-X, although the "hiss" not as loud as I experienced with Milo.
 
Jun 11, 2021 at 6:24 PM Post #10,233 of 10,238

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I am very happy I bought the Empyreans again. I tried using it with the Formula S, but I hear a faint electrical noise, as if the headhphone is too sensitive for the amp. So I plug it straight into the DAVE. And it sounds awesome!

Currently listening to this album:

Dirk Ehlert – Elements (2017, File) - Discogs
Does that mean the Formula S is not as good as Abyss has said it is? Or is it just a matching issue? Tks.
 
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Does that mean the Formula S is not as good as Abyss has said it is? Or is it just a matching issue? Tks.
Abyss recently posted a video on the Abyss thread in which they said that the Formula S is also good for easier to drive headphones or something to that effect, and I mentioned my Empyrean experience in response to that. I would say it's a very good amplifier for hard to drive headphones, but for more efficient ones, I don't think it works. Forget about IEMs too. But in my case it's totally fine, as I plug them straight into the Dave. (Actually the Dave produces hiss with sensitive IEMs like the Fourte, and I added a THX 789 to the chain for those cases.)
 
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Does that mean the Formula S is not as good as Abyss has said it is? Or is it just a matching issue? Tks.
A lot of amps exhibit this behavior with low impedance, high sensitivity headphones. It’s completely normal for amps with high output made to drive demanding headphones.
 
Jun 12, 2021 at 3:02 AM Post #10,237 of 10,238

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A lot of amps exhibit this behavior with low impedance, high sensitivity headphones. It’s completely normal for amps with high output made to drive demanding headphones.
I guess that's true. There are some exceptions though. Take an A90. It's very powerful, yet dead silent with sensitive headphones and IEMs. Whatever one thinks of the A90, I think that's pretty neat. And it makes me wonder why the 'big brands' can't achieve the same.
 
Jun 12, 2021 at 6:56 PM Post #10,238 of 10,238

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Has anyone tried running the Empyrean directly from an R8 balanced (i.e., the 4.4mm output)?
Yes, I had. I was not happy at all at the beginning. With Forza Noir Hybrid cable and leather pad the punch of drums was so sharp that the bass was not enjoyable for me. (I am ptetty sensible to some upper mid freqencies) I was missing the nice soft bass from the Kann Cube.
After a few month of trying to get used to it came the recognition: R8+Empy is very good if I use either the SE out on R8 with adapter, or use a thinner cable (Forza Hybrid series HPC) on 4.4, and turn off the turbo mode. That took away the (for me) painful puch.
Even better result came on 4.4 with the Forza Noir Hybrid cable (turbo still off) by using the Alcantra pads. Then the sound went into the direction what I experienced with the T+A Solitaire P on HA200. Tighter bass, more treble, but still without the painful kicks.
 

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