Just joined the Empyrean club, after trying a pair for a few days on TTVJ’s loaner program. I actually forgot I had signed up, and found them delivered to my office last week. Right off the bat I found them too warm, with the stock cable, at least to me. But Todd wisely included a Cardas cable also, which was much better and really showed the stock cable as not optimal. I had a cable laying around which I had bought previously for a pair of something or other, with the right connections for the Empyrean and I found I like it even better. I found I really HAD to have these, and they arrived today, and I sent the loaners on their merry way. Ok, long story short, I have seen posts comparing Utopias to these, and as the owner of Utopias and Stellias I have to say that these are a really great alternative to the focal sound. Fuller and warmer, but not selling the Utopias... They are very special also. I have owned many planers in the past, and always end up not satisfied. I do believe these will be different because they are just so “satisfying“ to listen to. After a bit of time with them, it is obvious to me that some reviews I have seen describing the as too warm, really needed to try a different cable. Yes, they are a bit warm, but this can be a ameliorated to a perfect blend of articulation and naturalness.