Meze 99 Classics Discussion + Impressions Thread
Dec 23, 2018 at 1:42 PM Post #4,636 of 7,677
I’m still holding off on swapping out my origanal pads with the newer ones. I’ve had the replacements for months but haven’t changed them out yet. The originals are decaying/deteriorating so dang fast now that the time has just about arrived. Grrrr.
I DONT want to lose my beloved daily driver for portable (about 90 minutes every single day) to such a significant change in sonic performance. Wish me luck.
I’m scared! :cold_sweat:

I have read that the latest pads are the best in sound and comfort. Maybe you will be surprised
 
Dec 23, 2018 at 3:11 PM Post #4,638 of 7,677
I have read that the latest pads are the best in sound and comfort. Maybe you will be surprised
comfort, maybe. Sound...apparently not. I got mine used and have no idea which pads were on it, I sold the pads off about a year ago since I solely use Brainwavz Sheepskins and love the sound.
 
Dec 23, 2018 at 4:12 PM Post #4,639 of 7,677
I’m still holding off on swapping out my origanal pads with the newer ones. I’ve had the replacements for months but haven’t changed them out yet. The originals are decaying/deteriorating so dang fast now that the time has just about arrived. Grrrr.
I DONT want to lose my beloved daily driver for portable (about 90 minutes every single day) to such a significant change in sonic performance. Wish me luck.
I’m scared! :cold_sweat:

Give it a go! It's only a few seconds to swap between pads, and I'd be interested to hear your impressions especially since you are used to the original sound. Hopefully you won't notice any change at all, or better yet the sound improves for you.

I'd bet the majority of 99C owners are happy with the sound of the most recent pads, and those that aren't may not be due to a number of reasons that are likely individualized to them. A few reasons may be the source changing the sound, expectations of a specific sound due to being used to other headphones, or just personal preference.
 
Dec 26, 2018 at 9:29 AM Post #4,640 of 7,677
"Meze" Aliexpress cable: https://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot...40t.0.0.23314c4daGAdRN&orderId=96801956670722

"LEORY Replacement Headphones Cable 3.5mm/6.35mm To 2 X 3.5mm Audio Upgrade Cable For Meze 99 Classics/Focal Elear Headphones"





The seller is hiding himself in weak English, despite the fact that he saved the pictures. He was informed about the irregularities: the plug housing of the mini

jack plugs does not fit into the headphone jack. He was asked for a refund and a correction in the title of the auction. In response, he offered to return half

the money. He did not make a correction that the cable is not suitable for Meze 99. I'm not satisfied.


Correspondence:

Me
18/12/19 03:17

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Me 18/12/19 03:16
Go to pictures.
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Michaelchan CHAN
18/12/18 19:48
Dear friend
I'm sorry for my poor English
our product has writing the size of 6.35mm .I'm not really know what you said to me



Me
18/12/18 04:18
Oryginal Meze 99 - housing headphone connector = 5mm
LEORY Replacement Headphones Cable ... Upgrade Cable For Meze 99 Classics - housing headphone connector >5,5 mm!!!



Michaelchan CHAN
18/12/17 22:42
Dear friend:
Is our description misunderstood there, please let us know, we don’t know where there is a mistake.
Best regards



Me
18/12/17 03:06
My problem has been described and photographed correctly (the mini jack housing has a diameter of more than 5 mm and can not be more than 5 mm)
I don't wont to discuss it anymore. I expect a refund of the amount paid. If I do not receive money, I feel cheated.



Michaelchan CHAN
18/12/16 23:07
Dear friend
we have write the size in product ' s discription , our product is truely one 6.33MM and two 3.5mm. the size of this product is correct.
do you have other problem?
Best regards



Me
18/12/14 12:37
The size of your plug is 6mm, the size of Meze it's 5mm. I expect you tu return me the amound paid.



Michaelchan CHAN
18/12/13 23:36
Dear friend:
I am sorry for the trouble we have caused you.
I don't quite understand what you mean, and I don't understand your picture. Our product size is correct. The size plug is the size of the plug,
not the entire head (handle other than the plug).
Anything can contact us!
Best regards


(...)


https://pokazywarka.pl/kpp8du/
https://pokazywarka.pl/umxzjg/


Oryginal Meze 99:
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LEORY Replacement Headphones Cable (...) For Meze 99
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Dec 27, 2018 at 3:04 PM Post #4,641 of 7,677
I’m still holding off on swapping out my origanal pads with the newer ones. I’ve had the replacements for months but haven’t changed them out yet. The originals are decaying/deteriorating so dang fast now that the time has just about arrived. Grrrr.
I DONT want to lose my beloved daily driver for portable (about 90 minutes every single day) to such a significant change in sonic performance. Wish me luck.
I’m scared! :cold_sweat:

Have you been able to verify the differences?
We can't wait eager to know your conclusions
 
Dec 28, 2018 at 3:37 PM Post #4,642 of 7,677
My pad search is finally complete! After trying 10 different pads I have found, for me, that the Yaxi stPad2 ear pads are the ideal solution for the 99C’s. It turns out there are two causes for the bass bloat in these headphones. Lack of damping in the ear cups & the design of the most recent stock pads. I think I’ve figured out how to fix both of those issues now. This post will be a quick breakdown of the Yaxi vs Stock pads, and the next post will be some additional changes that further refine (for me, fix) the headphones.

Comparing the Yaxi pads to the stock (3rd version) pads, the Yaxi pads:
  • Push the sound stage out a bit, but nowhere near the effect of BW velours or typical larger pads. The change is subtle enough that it just sounds like the sound stage is slightly larger. This isn’t offensive, and if anything it actually provides for better instrument separation
  • Reduce lingering bass. Bass quantity remains the same to my ears, but the lingering bass issue is greatly reduced (but not eliminated). I think this is probably due to the alcantara section of the pads allowing for the bass to escape a little.
  • Push the treble up a bit. This again is similar to how velours sound, but to a much smaller degree. This isn’t a desired change for me, but the change is subtle enough to not be a big deal.
  • Have an airier overall sound, a minor effect. The headphones sound more “Open”, which is good in my opinion. This also seems to reduce the feeling of sound pressure which is another positive change for me.
  • Comfort is about the same. My ears touch the drivers for both pads, but a little more so for the Yaxi’s.
Overall the benefits of the Yaxi’s outweigh any small negatives for me, and any negatives are fixed by doing an easy change in my next post.
 
Dec 28, 2018 at 3:42 PM Post #4,643 of 7,677
My pad search is finally complete! After trying 10 different pads I have found, for me, that the Yaxi stPad2 ear pads are the ideal solution for the 99C’s. It turns out there are two causes for the bass bloat in these headphones. Lack of damping in the ear cups & the design of the most recent stock pads. I think I’ve figured out how to fix both of those issues now. This post will be a quick breakdown of the Yaxi vs Stock pads, and the next post will be some additional changes that further refine (for me, fix) the headphones.

Comparing the Yaxi pads to the stock (3rd version) pads, the Yaxi pads:
  • Push the sound stage out a bit, but nowhere near the effect of BW velours or typical larger pads. The change is subtle enough that it just sounds like the sound stage is slightly larger. This isn’t offensive, and if anything it actually provides for better instrument separation
  • Reduce lingering bass. Bass quantity remains the same to my ears, but the lingering bass issue is greatly reduced (but not eliminated). I think this is probably due to the alcantara section of the pads allowing for the bass to escape a little.
  • Push the treble up a bit. This again is similar to how velours sound, but to a much smaller degree. This isn’t a desired change for me, but the change is subtle enough to not be a big deal.
  • Have an airier overall sound, a minor effect. The headphones sound more “Open”, which is good in my opinion. This also seems to reduce the feeling of sound pressure which is another positive change for me.
  • Comfort is about the same. My ears touch the drivers for both pads, but a little more so for the Yaxi’s.
Overall the benefits of the Yaxi’s outweigh any small negatives for me, and any negatives are fixed by doing an easy change in my next post.
Damn man, if we all agree on your assessment, it looks like the search is over.
These are pretty inexpensive too if not
Mistaken.
 
Dec 28, 2018 at 3:42 PM Post #4,644 of 7,677
If you are unhappy with the quality of the bass with the 99C’s, here is a potential fix that I can’t recommend enough:
  1. Get Yaxi stPad2 ear pads : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0785WRK1Z/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  2. Take off the current ear pads (just pull on them around the edges, they come right off).
  3. Unscrew the 4 screws holding the driver plate to the wooden cups. They are Torx T6 screws.
  4. Gently pull the driver plate away from the wooden cups. You'll see that there is a piece of open cell foam that is sitting there in the cup. There are two gaps of exposed wood on the left and right. Take a single cotton ball and pull it apart until it is really wispy. Take a SMALL amount of cotton and fill in the left and right gaps
  5. Above and below the foam there are two more gaps, but these need to remain clear as you’ll notice there are vents on the driver plate for these areas. That said, take a very small line of cotton and attach it where the foam meets those gaps. The intent here is to have a small filter between where the sound is entering those gaps from underneath the foam. Make sure you don’t block the driver vents in any way as that will muffle the overall sound.
  6. Seal the headphones back up and put the Yaxi pads on. Make sure the Alcantara portion of the pads is facing FORWARDS. If you have nice taste and bought the Red and Blue pads, the Blue pad is right, the Red is left, and the pad seams are facing down.
  7. Listen to the headphones. If they are too bassy, add a little more cotton into the cup without blocking the driver or vents. If they aren’t bassy enough, remove some cotton and/or break apart your cotton further.
Here's a quick picture of what mine looks like:
https://imgur.com/a/Ev0kHtU

The end result for me is that the headphones are much cleaner and more detailed than before. The bass is tight, mostly clean, textured, and still emphasized as the headphones were designed to be. Further, the mids and highs sound better now that the bass is confined to it’s own area.
 

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Dec 28, 2018 at 3:44 PM Post #4,645 of 7,677
Have you been able to verify the differences?
We can't wait eager to know your conclusions
I still haven’t swapped them out. As a side note, I’ve had these pads for quite some time so I’m not sure what iteration these are. When did the 2nd replacement pad come out as I could quite possibly have the 1st pad after the origanal was DC’d.
 
Dec 28, 2018 at 3:49 PM Post #4,646 of 7,677
Damn man, if we all agree on your assessment, it looks like the search is over.
These are pretty inexpensive too if not
Mistaken.

That's always the rough part. It's made the sound what I want, but not sure if it's what others would want as well. Hopefully someone else has some Yaxi pads laying around that can give this a try to either support or refute what I hear.
 
Dec 28, 2018 at 6:58 PM Post #4,647 of 7,677
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Dec 28, 2018 at 7:41 PM Post #4,648 of 7,677
The first pad sounded the best good and second revision pads were supposedly good enough. No one was complaining about the sound until the last pad revision came out.The last/ 3rd revision, 45x64 size ..... are the ones that screw up the sound for sure.
 
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Dec 29, 2018 at 4:04 AM Post #4,649 of 7,677
The first pad sounded the best good and second revision pads were supposedly good enough. No one was complaining about the sound until the last pad revision came out.The last/ 3rd revision, 45x64 size ..... are the ones that screw up the sound for sure.

If the third version sounds worse. Why do not they back make a previous version? Why do not they sell other versions in their shop? matter of taste?

Is strange that they keep a bad decision.. If manufacturing cost is the same
 
Dec 29, 2018 at 3:16 PM Post #4,650 of 7,677
If the third version sounds worse. Why do not they back make a previous version? Why do not they sell other versions in their shop? matter of taste?

Is strange that they keep a bad decision.. If manufacturing cost is the same
Because they do not find any issue with the sound...only some people find an issue with it.
 

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