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Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee Review & Measurements

Discussion in 'Headphones (full-size)' started by jude, Dec 20, 2017.
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  1. elira
    AFAIK it's going to be tomorrow. I think Massdrop does it that way so you enter their site more often.
     
  2. Pedro Oliveira
    Who makes the headphones? Not massdrop.... sure they may have a importnat role in the development and tunning but in the end is sennheiser who makes the headphones, so i would say my anger is definitely not misguided.
     
  3. Assimilator702
    The drop is scheduled to start on the 27th.
     
  4. cujobob
    An American company created a group buy business which in turn provides guaranteed business to Sennheiser in a large quantity. If you organized a group buy of tens of thousands of the product, you could probably get Sennheiser to do the same for you. This isn’t anyone’s fault and there’s no reason to be upset. Your country charges taxes/fees that may make it less impressive as a deal, but that’s something you’ll have to take up with your politicians. You could move to the USA. You have options, but you may not like them. This is a business transaction that isn’t only a bad deal for you because of your country’s tax policies. Or maybe be mad that the USA has better taxes in this regard, but we have failures because of that in other areas of our lives. You’re not going to get it all.

    In other news, Massdrop gave me options for the serial number fiasco that I’m happy with and they were quick to resolve the issue. While it’s disappointing, their customer service has been really good the few times I’ve needed it.
     
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  5. baiyy1986
    Man, I will not buy another Massdrop product make me wait for such a long time then notice it can be purchased almost the same day as I have been waiting for 6 months.
     
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2018
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  6. Pavioni
    Sounds like a business opportunity to me - start your own EUcentric version of Massdrop.
    or perhaps vote in a government which doesn't consider each citizen to be a tax asset to be fleeced?
    Massdrop is a USA based corporation which imports it's products from various countries worldwide at favorable tariff rates thus allowing them to resell at lower prices within the US. If your country insists on adding exorbitant VAT fees to every sale,plus import tariffs even though this product originated in a EU country, then that's on you. It's your government,change it. Or,like the weather, you can just complain about it.
     
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  7. Beagle
    Now you know how North American Senn customers felt during the 90's.
     
  8. Nutsid
    As someone else pointed out - it works like this: Massdrop contacts company to see if they can make a deal in regards to making X product if Y amount can be sold, if there is an agreement then the drop starts. Once the drop starts, if target amount gets sold then the money is collected and sent off to company making X product. Said company begins making X product and upon completion, it all gets sent to the Massdrop distribution hub. From there, Massdrop is responsible for shipping X product out to customers.

    So, yes, Sennheiser makes them but as far as they are concerned, they are making them all for a singular customer - Massdrop - and none of what they are making is going anywhere else. Now, international purchases can be bought through Massdrop, of course, but it still has to be shipped from their hub to anywhere else in the world, hence the added taxation, shipping, etc.

    So, be mad about it all you want but it isn't Sennheiser screwing over their customers, it is a specialized product made for a singular customer who, in return, has sold off the product all over the world.

    Now, if Sennheiser were to be selling the same product in various locations all over the world excluding yours, well, then it would be their fault. Sennheiser just sees it as a guarantee of a huge chunk of money and their products don't have to sit on a shelf unsold.
     
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  9. Harry Manback
    Sounds like an opportunity for you to me. Start your own massdrop like company in Europe and rake in those Euros. :L3000:
     
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  10. WilliamLeonhart
    I think this sums it up perfectly.
     
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  11. pjyi
    which of the headphones pairs best with CTH amp?
     
  12. lambdastorm
    Jude's measurements sure got my curiosity piqued. One thing tho, do they use the same driver as HD660S? If not then is the driver stainless-steel-coated like the HD660S?
     
  13. Qualcheduno
    As a rational human being, I agree with you, but as an emotional european customer I sort of feel mocked, having to pay shipping and VATs and tolls for a product which is manufactured in the EU to begin with.
     
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  14. Anarion
    These are new drivers, not used in any other Sennheiser headphones yet.
     
  15. harrisong
    Totally agree!
     
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