Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
May 14, 2018 at 5:16 AM Post #40,186 of 48,561
In hindsight, I question the legality of those programs due to free access to licensed technology, hence why I will no longer talk about them here.
 
May 14, 2018 at 5:33 AM Post #40,187 of 48,561
Equalizer APO, Hesuvi and VoiceMeter as a combination will allow you to add Sennheiser GSX 1000 ( or SBX Pro, CMSS, Razor,the standard 48 heads and a lot of other options) like surround sound to any Amp and DAC. The main drawback of doing so is the stack of software required. Windows volume control will no longer work as VoiceMeter/Virtual cable is involved. It is still a solution that can get you unhindered sound for music and let you try all the surround options to find the best match for you. Work OK on my modi/magni setup but ultimately the drawbacks of the software had me back with the Sennheiser GSX 1000 and magni just for the convenience.

Unfortunately I game solely on PS4 so the above are not options for me (sounds like a lot of effort too).
 
May 14, 2018 at 5:46 AM Post #40,188 of 48,561
I thought about that as well but where would you start? I think the only problem with HeSuVi is that it uses HRIR files named after licensed VSTs. Anything else is not illegal, neither the method of recording these impulse responses, nor the method of using EQ APO's convolver. Virtually impossible to question the legality of the software as it doesn't use drivers, GUI, any software packages or any files at all.
 
May 14, 2018 at 12:25 PM Post #40,190 of 48,561
Why would be a convolution with a self-recorded impulse response be illegal?
All programms are open source and free to use.
It's just simple mathematics.

Because it's in effect giving us licensed processing for free. Like I said I dunno the legalities of it.
 
May 14, 2018 at 4:18 PM Post #40,192 of 48,561
Ironically, hesuvi's version of windows sonic for headphones and dolby atmos for headphones is arguably better than the actual version, since you can use them with windows set to 7.1. Though on the flip side, you are limited to 7.1 with hesuvi, so no height channels like you can get if an application actually supports atmos/sonic output.
 
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May 14, 2018 at 6:01 PM Post #40,193 of 48,561
Ironically, hesuvi's version of windows sonic for headphones and dolby atmos for headphones is arguably better than the actual version, since you can use them with windows set to 7.1. Though on the flip side, you are limited to 7.1 with hesuvi, so no height channels like you can get if an application actually supports atmos/sonic output.

I don't have hesuvi setup anymore but from what I've tested of every dsp devicedthat allowed 5.1 and 7.1, there was NO difference between them in terms of virtual surround accuracy. Like none. At all.

Testing includes DH, THX Tru Studio, and SBX. I wouldn't be about to say which setting it was whether 5.1 or 7.1.
 
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May 15, 2018 at 6:54 AM Post #40,194 of 48,561
Any thoughts -
Budget £200 (I have a gift voucher ) for a pair of new headphones. Already use DT990 and HD598 for gaming, anything better in terms of soundstage and separation/positioning available?
Massdrop AKG7xx any improvement on the above?
I find tiny DT990s a bit fatiguing, and the HD598 a bit to warm and full, maybe it’s just me
Use all the above with an x7 on PS4.
 
May 15, 2018 at 10:07 AM Post #40,195 of 48,561
So you want something very neutral. Try a K601. It's $178 ish on Amazon. More neutral than HD598, an not fatiguing like the 990. I think you'll really like it. It's fantastic for the price. Of course I reviewed it, so check the review.

The K7XX will be warm and fifu like the 598, but more refined and like an upgrade of the 598 sound.
 
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May 15, 2018 at 10:20 AM Post #40,196 of 48,561
So you want something very neutral. Try a K601. It's $178 ish on Amazon. More neutral than HD598, an not fatiguing like the 990. I think you'll really like it. It's fantastic for the price. Of course I reviewed it, so check the review.

The K7XX will be warm and fifu like the 598, but more refined and like an upgrade of the 598 sound.

You’d go with a K601 over a K701/2?
 
May 15, 2018 at 11:34 AM Post #40,197 of 48,561
The K700 series will sound more like the 598, and I'm sure you want to get something different.
 
May 15, 2018 at 2:28 PM Post #40,199 of 48,561
The K700 series will sound more like the 598, and I'm sure you want to get something different.

Ok, thanks for the advice. Seems like the K601 is hard to find in the uk, from my quick googling anyway.
Is there a comparable neutral equivalent, with wide soundstage - and an upgrade on DT990/HD508, mainly for gaming?
 
May 16, 2018 at 4:31 PM Post #40,200 of 48,561
Well I hope no one was tossing around the idea of grabbing a Smyth Research Realizer A16 at $2300. It is now $4000, as they have teamed up with a dealer to distribute the A16.
 

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