Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!
Dec 12, 2019 at 9:53 AM Post #3,586 of 9,086
Some of the Kinboofis are reasonably-priced right now.

For the Tinhifi T4, I am considering the 8-core SPC at $9

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32985563041.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.5a953c007EP0j6&mp=1

and the more expensive copper/SPC at $25

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32956046016.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.


Some of the Kinboofis are reasonably-priced right now.

For the Tinhifi T4, I am considering the 8-core SPC at $9

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32985563041.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.5a953c007EP0j6&mp=1

and the more expensive copper/SPC at $25

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32956046016.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.5a953c007EP0j6&mp=1

Then again, that last one there might be better for the V90. Could put a KBear 16-core copper on T4, or the $10 NiceHCK brown 16-core.

I received my t4.Stock cable is sticky rubbery and microphonic but sound quality is descent.So i think you need to spend a little more to get an improvement in sound quality.
I ordered this kbear one for USD35.I saw three other sellers carrying this same cable for 100 dollars. Also saw Dsnuts previous posting in this thread that he is certainly sure that this is the same rebranded nicehck c4_1 cable.I hope he is.

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/Cftop8I8

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Dec 12, 2019 at 10:44 AM Post #3,587 of 9,086
So Lets get into this, reading reading reading #175 wel adviced........ Holy 200 euro..... Uhm noop.

So Just orderd the cheap rx version:
€ 36,36 | 6N OCC + OCC Zilver plating 26AWG Speciale Aanbieding Hoofdtelefoon Upgrade Lijn MMCX 0.78MM 2PIN https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/4A64sKOM

And a other guess faaeal 4core:€ 15,33 6%OFF | FAAEAL 4 Kern Hoge Zuiverheid Koper 3.5mm vergulde Oortelefoon Upgrade Kabel Met 2Pin Connector Voor TFZ/ kinera/TRN/KZ ZST/FAAEAL https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/dV9xDJiC

For now using the NiceHCK c16 and the they shall not be named version of the cable, hope the more pure cabels bring some.
 
Dec 12, 2019 at 11:23 AM Post #3,588 of 9,086
I received my t4.Stock cable is sticky rubbery and microphonic but sound quality is descent.So i think you need to spend a little more to get an improvement in sound quality.
I ordered this kbear one for USD35.I saw three other sellers carrying this same cable for 100 dollars. Also saw Dsnuts previous posting in this thread that he is certainly sure that this is the same rebranded nicehck c4_1 cable.I hope he is.

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/Cftop8I8

Very interesting, thanks. So would you rate this as a better cable for the T4 than the NiceHCK C-16-3 ($21) and the KBear 16-core copper ($13)?
 
Dec 12, 2019 at 5:01 PM Post #3,589 of 9,086
HI Everyone, I'm very much a beginner at cables. I just got the AudioSense T800 paired with my DX220 with AMP 9 and i must say it is incredible sounding. While the T800 comes with a good cable already as Audiosense gives 2 cables now, I can't help but think there is a better cable out there. Could I ask which is a suitable one under $30? Thanks for all the advice!
 
Dec 12, 2019 at 5:34 PM Post #3,590 of 9,086
Hi!

Would like to change the cable of my new HIFIMAN Ananda (2x 3,5mm + 1x 6,35mm).
What can you recommend - up to max. 150 EUR?

I currently have the Forza Audioworks Claire HPC Mk2 on my shortlist.

Many greetings!
 
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Dec 13, 2019 at 2:09 AM Post #3,591 of 9,086
Hi, I have a random question.

Is it possible to get channel imbalance when using a 2.5mm to 4.4mm adapter for a 2.5 balanced cable? The vocals seem to be placed more on the right side. I don't hear the same imbalance when using a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter. Is it the adapter that's faulty?
 
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Dec 13, 2019 at 2:51 AM Post #3,592 of 9,086
Hi!

Would like to change the cable of my new HIFIMAN Ananda (2x 3,5mm + 1x 6,35mm).
What can you recommend - up to max. 150 EUR?

I currently have the Forza Audioworks Claire HPC Mk2 on my shortlist.

Many greetings!
Hi Welcome... never try Hifiman HP.. so while waiting for other to reply,
can you elaborate your expectation from the new cable ? example like more bass etc...
 
Dec 13, 2019 at 2:54 AM Post #3,593 of 9,086
Hi, I have a random question.

Is it possible to get channel imbalance when using a 2.5mm to 4.4mm adapter for a 2.5 balanced cable? The vocals seem to be placed more on the right side. I don't hear the same imbalance when using a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter. Is it the adapter that's faulty?
Just rechecking... when you said imbalance, is it like the left side seems a lot quieter ???
What I experience is because Male and female jack are not align. so I need to a bit plug out the connection between adapter and cable, and it will be balanced..

edit... better let the more expert diagnose....
 
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Dec 13, 2019 at 3:01 AM Post #3,594 of 9,086
Hi Welcome... never try Hifiman HP.. so while waiting for other to reply,
can you elaborate your expectation from the new cable ? example like more bass etc...

Good morning! Good morning!

Thanks for asking. In terms of sound I don't really hope for a significant sound change. I am mainly concerned with haptics and optics. Both I don't like at all with the original HIFIMAN cable. I liked the look of the Forza Audioworks Claire HPC Mk2.

Many greetings & thank you!
 
Dec 13, 2019 at 3:40 AM Post #3,595 of 9,086
Good morning! Good morning!

Thanks for asking. In terms of sound I don't really hope for a significant sound change. I am mainly concerned with haptics and optics. Both I don't like at all with the original HIFIMAN cable. I liked the look of the Forza Audioworks Claire HPC Mk2.

Many greetings & thank you!
OK... That Forza Audioworks Claire HPC Mk2. is 8 strands of 26AWG cryo 7N UPOCC copper wire LITZ .. in that price actually is already good, IMO.

My similar cable to your is 179 + Adapter MMCX to 3.5 TRS. But my 179, is 8 strand taiwan neotech oem 26AWG 7n frozen up-occ (no litz), PE sheath, 2.5 TRRS Rhodium.
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below is the adapter MMCX to 3.5 TRS



My 179 price I got from EA CEMA at that time is USD 108,- + Adapter USD 42 = USD 150...

Further consideration :
you still want the jack in 6.3 TRS ? or you want to go balanced ?
If you customed made, probably will be less then USD 120.. if you keep Gold plate jack... But no Litz structure.

By the looks, I assumed is the same... if it is.. the reality is more on copper to pinky color... hehehe.. quite eye catching ... hahaha..
 
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Dec 13, 2019 at 3:56 AM Post #3,596 of 9,086
Just rechecking... when you said imbalance, is it like the left side seems a lot quieter ???
What I experience is because Male and female jack are not align. so I need to a bit plug out the connection between adapter and cable, and it will be balanced.. My diagnose is because the R ground solder was not good...

Yes, that is correct. The sound seems to be louder on the right side. And the vocals in particular are more in the right channel. Like say if 9 o'clock is the end of the left side, 12 o' clock the middle, 3 o' clock the right, then the vocals are placed somewhere in the 1-2 o' clock side. Sorry if that's a very random way to describe it. LOL
 
Dec 13, 2019 at 4:00 AM Post #3,597 of 9,086
Yes, that is correct. The sound seems to be louder on the right side. And the vocals in particular are more in the right channel. Like say if 9 o'clock is the end of the left side, 12 o' clock the middle, 3 o' clock the right, then the vocals are placed somewhere in the 1-2 o' clock side. Sorry if that's a very random way to describe it. LOL
Care to try to a bit loose the connection ??? see if it will go balanced ??

edit : what I mean, is just pull the the jack connection a bit... see if that's help..
No NEED to open the jack housing.. sorry.. my English is BAD
 
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Dec 13, 2019 at 4:13 AM Post #3,598 of 9,086
OK... That Forza Audioworks Claire HPC Mk2. is 8 strands of 26AWG cryo 7N UPOCC copper wire LITZ .. in that price actually is already good, IMO.

My similar cable to your is 179 + Adapter MMCX to 3.5 TRS. But my 179, is 8 strand taiwan neotech oem 26AWG 7n frozen up-occ (no litz), PE sheath, 2.5 TRRS Rhodium.



below is the adapter MMCX to 3.5 TRS



My 179 price I got from EA CEMA at that time is USD 108,- + Adapter USD 42 = USD 150...

Further consideration :
you still want the jack in 6.3 TRS ? or you want to go balanced ?
If you customed made, probably will be less then USD 120.. if you keep Gold plate jack... But no Litz structure.

By the looks, I assumed is the same... if it is.. the reality is more on copper to pinky color... hehehe.. quite eye catching ... hahaha..

Hi!

Thank you for the quick feedback and the photos you showed.
Yes, I would like to stay with a 6.3 connector because my headphone amplifier is equipped with it.

I wasn't actually planning on building myself, so I find solutions like Forza Audioworks quite practical. Would there still be similarly good suppliers in the same and/or cheaper price segment?

Many greetings!
 
Dec 13, 2019 at 4:33 AM Post #3,599 of 9,086
Hi!

Thank you for the quick feedback and the photos you showed.
Yes, I would like to stay with a 6.3 connector because my headphone amplifier is equipped with it.

I wasn't actually planning on building myself, so I find solutions like Forza Audioworks quite practical. Would there still be similarly good suppliers in the same and/or cheaper price segment?

Many greetings!
No.. we are configuring.. the manual cable fee around USD 15 will be done by CEMA...

you can configure these.
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The Jack is consist of 5 pcs.. you only used 3 pcs. so got spare 2 pcs... (BTW is the 3.5 jack in headphone, the diameter is less then 1 CM ??, the jack 3.5 CEMA have OD is 0.5 CM)

so you total cost will be Material (USD 87.31 disc HAKUZEN 5% =) USD 83.3 + Manual fee USD 15 + adapter 3.5 to 6.35 TRS USD 7 = total will be USD 105.3.
Assuming the CEMA jack 3.5 TRS OD 5mm can fit to your ANANDA...

HAHAHA... I love to configure like these... like back to old days to build a RIG...
Anyway, just suggestion... and alternative... we wait other to comment

edit : CEMA don't have 6.35 jack
 
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Dec 13, 2019 at 4:54 AM Post #3,600 of 9,086
Care to try to a bit loose the connection ??? see if it will go balanced ??

edit : what I mean, is just pull the the jack connection a bit... see if that's help..
No NEED to open the jack housing.. sorry.. my English is BAD

I tried pulling the jack / loosening the connection a bit and it didn't help. It cut out the audio to just the left side or the right side. It's probably something with the adapter I'm guessing. I'll try it with another 4.4mm adapter soon to see if that was the culprit. It sounds perfectly okay with the 3.5mm adapter I have here. Hehe I understood your English just fine. :blush:
 

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