Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!
Sep 9, 2019 at 1:48 PM Post #2,536 of 9,163
I've just seen in your review of the 65's you say you received a cheap looking plug with criss-cross pattern attached to the blue cable, which had some pretty bad channel imbalance. I suspect this channel imbalance was due to the plug.

Unfortunately it looks like the copper version now only comes with that plug (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32995790233.html). Do you know any other sellers that still have the cable with the good plug attached? The other link in your review (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32954964343.html) says it's no longer available there.
Yes, the weakest and cheapest part in cable 065 is the jack. Guess the plain jack is same low quality than criss-cross pattern one. They are same jack than used by TRN in their bad soldered cables.
Summary of measured cables using that jack:
1 bad soldered from 3 cables 065 (jcally 4 cores; copper color ones were ok, blue was wrong).
1 bad soldered from 3 cables 066 (jcally 8 cores black).
7 very bad soldered from 7 cables 056 (TRN 8 cores).

I don't know if ISN audio S4 cable (not in my list) uses same wire than 065; it has quite better plug, but costs 4x. Same about cable 128 of my list.
Guess S4 and 128 use better wire, because wire of 065 is much cheaper.
 
Sep 9, 2019 at 3:08 PM Post #2,537 of 9,163
Yes, the weakest and cheapest part in cable 065 is the jack. Guess the plain jack is same low quality than criss-cross pattern one. They are same jack than used by TRN in their bad soldered cables.
Summary of measured cables using that jack:
1 bad soldered from 3 cables 065 (jcally 4 cores; copper color ones were ok, blue was wrong).
1 bad soldered from 3 cables 066 (jcally 8 cores black).
7 very bad soldered from 7 cables 056 (TRN 8 cores).

I don't know if ISN audio S4 cable (not in my list) uses same wire than 065; it has quite better plug, but costs 4x. Same about cable 128 of my list.
Guess S4 and 128 use better wire, because wire of 065 is much cheaper.

I see, so did one of the plain copper 065 cables you measured to be ok have the criss-cross jack, or did they both have the plain jack?
 
Sep 9, 2019 at 4:52 PM Post #2,538 of 9,163
I see, so did one of the plain copper 065 cables you measured to be ok have the criss-cross jack, or did they both have the plain jack?
Criss-cross both, regardless of the pic showed at their shop. Anyway, the jack is the same that the plain one. Just different mid out shell
 
Sep 9, 2019 at 7:40 PM Post #2,540 of 9,163
Criss-cross both, regardless of the pic showed at their shop. Anyway, the jack is the same that the plain one. Just different mid out shell

Right ok, I think I'll just order the 064 NiceHCK cable then, as it seems the 065 JC Ally doesn't have the best quality control. 200 mΩ should be low enough resistance anyway.
 
Sep 9, 2019 at 10:22 PM Post #2,541 of 9,163
Hi All, looking for some advice on a cheap cable that's really compact/ergonomic. Think Plussound X series, Linum Superbax, etc. Not looking for 8 or 16 core, etc. Preferably SPC or silver. Spent a lot of time going through AliExpress and I'm drawing a blank, haha. Needs to be 2-pin CEIM with a recessed socket. Thank you!
Try looking for electro acousti store on AE
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 3:52 AM Post #2,542 of 9,163
Advise for me a cable 4core for Smabat ST-10 with a small jack up to $ 30, now I have Penon Silver-Plated I don’t like it. While I look at Astrotec silver plated, but the price does not inspire confidence
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 4:28 AM Post #2,543 of 9,163
Advise for me a cable 4core for Smabat ST-10 with a small jack up to $ 30, now I have Penon Silver-Plated I don’t like it. While I look at Astrotec silver plated, but the price does not inspire confidence
Depends of the sound sig your are looking for.
I'm a fan of 4 cores (before all), I just ordered an ISN Audio S4, looks to have great conductivity and sound, slightly overpriced for a silver plated (I would say) but looks better (especially wires quality) than most silver plated cables. I will verify that point once it will be at home :)
I'm sure it wil be a great ST-10 companion.
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 4:32 AM Post #2,544 of 9,163
Sep 10, 2019 at 7:28 AM Post #2,545 of 9,163
Hi All, looking for some advice on a cheap cable that's really compact/ergonomic. Think Plussound X series, Linum Superbax, etc. Not looking for 8 or 16 core, etc. Preferably SPC or silver. Spent a lot of time going through AliExpress and I'm drawing a blank, haha. Needs to be 2-pin CEIM with a recessed socket. Thank you!

Advise for me a cable 4core for Smabat ST-10 with a small jack up to $ 30, now I have Penon Silver-Plated I don’t like it. While I look at Astrotec silver plated, but the price does not inspire confidence
Surf along my list of cables (link at my signature, check cables below $40 section). Some do have slim plugs.

You can select slim jacks for most 4 cores cables at Electro acousti ( https://www.aliexpress.com/store/5003206 ).
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Sep 10, 2019 at 8:20 AM Post #2,546 of 9,163
Sep 10, 2019 at 8:36 AM Post #2,547 of 9,163
I think he is looking for a whole finished cable, not plugs alone, but lets see

Yes, I'm looking for a finished cable, I looked at the list, all cables have a large jack :frowning2:
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 9:06 AM Post #2,548 of 9,163
I think he is looking for a whole finished cable, not plugs alone, but lets see
Yes, I'm looking for a finished cable, I looked at the list, all cables have a large jack :frowning2:
What I meant is you can ask the seller for any cable but using these jacks, kind of customizing your cable.
You can select the components (wire, jack, divider, termination plugs) from their stock, and ask for a quote for the ready made cable.
Or you can choose a stock cable, and ask for using another jack.
In all cases, we are talking about a ready made cable.
This is the advantage of they being the manufacturers, not only distributors.
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 9:24 AM Post #2,550 of 9,163
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