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Jun 27, 2019 at 8:40 AM Post #1,861 of 9,178
Hello guys, I am looking for a balanced cable for the KZ ZS10 pro with the 4.4mm jack.
Tha cable is paragraph C style:

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Do you have a suggestion? Thanks
 
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Jun 27, 2019 at 8:57 AM Post #1,862 of 9,178
Hello guys, I am looking for a balanced cable for the KZ ZS10 pro with the 4.4mm jack.
Tha cable is paragraph C style:



Do you have a suggestion? Thanks
cable 066 of my List of cables.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32965649117.html
it allows to choose 4.4mm directly, and uses the right termination.

some cables 065 (thicker, better conductivity) also allow 4.4mm balanced jack (but you have to message to the seller). in this case, choose QDC termination.
 
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Jun 27, 2019 at 9:46 AM Post #1,864 of 9,178
cable 066 of my List of cables.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32965649117.html
it allows to choose 4.4mm directly, and uses the right termination.

some cables 065 (thicker, better conductivity) also allow 4.4mm balanced jack (but you have to message to the seller). in this case, choose QDC termination.

From your message I understand that the cable 065 is better. I will try to get in contact with the seller. Do you have a link for the 065 cable please? Thanks
 
Jun 27, 2019 at 10:00 AM Post #1,866 of 9,178
my wish has been granted!
8 cores cable of taiwan frozen up-occ copper litz, now available at electro acousti in aliexpress.
straight mmcx/2pins plugs, quite better quality jack, splitter, chin slider than any other in my stock (except cable 190).
28awg 8 cores, resistance per signal of the cable will be around 130mOhms (~25awg). superb.

couldn't resist it.. ordered one. cable 171. i'll add measurements and build & sound impressions when it arrives.


170, 171. tw cryo 7n upocc copper litz (copper,eagle,M)
171. 8 cores version:
outer diameter: total length:
structure: 0.08mm*19(OD:1.08mm/27.3awg)*4c [2c/signal: 24.3AWG]
170. 4 cores version: 252..254..268..290..[21.46g]
outer diameter: 4.3mm. total length:125cm (42cm from splitter).
structure: 0.08mm*19(OD:1.08mm/27.3AWG)*4c
taiwan frozen 7n up-occ copper litz (independent shield/enamel of every thread in each core); "frozen and strengthened by American cryo parts".
eagle true rhodium plated jack, sandal wood divider and wood chin slider; superb quality plugs, there is a big difference between these components (jack, divider, slider), and those used in any other chi-cable from my list; the jack costs over $14, while others jack cost is $2-3.
strain relief is a bit stiff (soft heat-shrink); this could be improved.
mmcx and 2pins terminations, 2.5, 3.5, 4.4mm jacks, available.
flexible wire, but not much; guess it's due to the sleeve. some microphonics, then, although i don't notice them when music is playing.
sound is very clean, reference. darker background, deeper soundstage; definition is so great, that i get the best separation and imaging perception.
litz shielding can give even darker background than wire used in cable 165 (no litz); this is confirmed after first listening, but difference is subtle (as usual with cables).
my wish of an 8 cores version cable of this wire has been granted! this could be my favorite, atm
_170_tw_7nupocclz_4c_eagle_copp.jpg

wire used:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/33008255130.html
_170_wire0.jpg
_170_wire2.jpg

links:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/1000007909452.html
 
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Jun 27, 2019 at 10:16 AM Post #1,867 of 9,178
@hakuzen
Are there any cables on the sub-400mΩ list with angled-housing 2-pin connectors for recessed ports?
Trying to find a different cable for the Tanchjim Oxygen.
most are straight, best quality ones at least.

i bought some of this kind of adapters, and use mmcx cables (converted to angled 2pins). protruding pins for recessed sockets, but there are also angled adapters ended in less protruding pins (westone) or flush pins for flush sockets:
check the ones at left bottom (they are shorter than black ones at left top)
taVar_01.jpg taVar_02.jpg
 
Jun 27, 2019 at 10:34 AM Post #1,868 of 9,178
most are straight, best quality ones at least.

i bought some of this kind of adapters, and use mmcx cables (converted to angled 2pins). protruding pins for recessed sockets, but there are also angled adapters ended in less protruding pins (westone) or flush pins for flush sockets:
check the ones at left bottom (they are shorter than black ones at left top)

This post should be at the first page!
 
Jun 27, 2019 at 11:24 AM Post #1,870 of 9,178
Any recs for a cable for moodrop kxxs should be nice to wear nice fit and improve resolution and details ? 40-100dollars
 
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Jun 27, 2019 at 11:35 AM Post #1,872 of 9,178
my wish has been granted!
8 cores cable of taiwan frozen up-occ copper litz, now available at electro acousti in aliexpress.
straight mmcx/2pins plugs, quite better quality jack, splitter, chin slider than any other in my stock (except cable 190).
28awg 8 cores, resistance per signal of the cable will be around 130mOhms (~25awg). superb.

couldn't resist it.. ordered one. cable 171. i'll add measurements and build & sound impressions when it arrives.


170, 171. tw cryo 7n upocc copper litz (copper,eagle,M)
171. 8 cores version:
170. 4 cores version: 252..254..268..290..[21.46g]
outer diameter: 4.3mm. total length:125cm (42cm from splitter).
structure: 0.07-0.08mm*19(OD:1.08mm/~28AWG)*4c taiwan frozen 7n up-occ copper litz (independent shield/enamel of every thread in each core); "frozen and strengthened by American cryo parts".
eagle true rhodium plated jack, sandal wood divider and wood chin slider; superb quality plugs, there is a big difference between these components (jack, divider, slider), and those used in any other chi-cable from my list; the jack costs over $12, while others jack cost is $2-3.
strain relief is stiff (heat-shrink rigid tube); this could be improved.
mmcx and 2pins terminations, 2.5, 3.5, 4.4mm jacks, available.
not very flexible wire, guess it's due to the sleeve. some microphonics, then.
sound is very clean, reference. dark background, deeper soundstage; definition is so great, that i feel better separation and imaging than the rest.
litz shielding can give even darker background than wire used in cable 165 (no litz); this is confirmed after first listening, but difference is subtle (as usual with cables).
my wish of an 8 cores version cable of this wire has been granted!
_170_tw_7nupocclz_4c_eagle_copp.jpg

wire used:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/33008255130.html
_170_wire0.jpg
_170_wire2.jpg

links:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/1000007909452.html
Don't know why shipping cost is very high from this store in my country.
 
Jun 27, 2019 at 12:40 PM Post #1,873 of 9,178
Any recs for a cable for moodrop kxxs should be nice to wear nice fit and improve resolution and details ? 40-100dollars
imo, taiwan up-occ frozen cables are one step beyond (madness!) any other one, in terms of sound, and they are into your budget.
i'd say cable 169, but only mmcx available, so you'd need small adapters (add another $20).
or cable 170, 2pins protruding termination is ideal for kanas; you get better separation and imaging perception thanks to darker background and deeper stage.

Don't know why shipping cost is very high from this store in my country.
because they are using aliexpress premium shipping (DHL mostly). my first cable arrived in 4 days!. no customs taxes because declared under $20 and it's a light package.
you could ask the seller for the chance of using aliexpress standard shipping instead
 
Jun 27, 2019 at 2:24 PM Post #1,874 of 9,178
I have TFZ No3, is there anything in particular that I need to look for when looking to buy a new wire? Such as recessed 2 pin or it don't matter? I was looking to get cable 170 but now 171 is available. As much as I want to get one of these, I'm having trouble pulling the trigger on cables that's just as much or more than the IEM itself.
 
Jun 27, 2019 at 3:59 PM Post #1,875 of 9,178
I have TFZ No3, is there anything in particular that I need to look for when looking to buy a new wire? Such as recessed 2 pin or it don't matter? I was looking to get cable 170 but now 171 is available. As much as I want to get one of these, I'm having trouble pulling the trigger on cables that's just as much or more than the IEM itself.
yea, it has not sense except if you plan to get better and more expensive phones in a not very far future
 

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