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Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!

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  1. CoiL
    @hakuzen & @Slater , stop dissecting cables and start to build Your own from scratch! :wink:
    I got my PO sleeves in continious pieces along with 100x0.03 Litz cable and hopefully next week with sleeve it and braid it. Though, im actually thinking ordering more of that Litz as it seems to come out pretty thin for individual wire, so 4-core braid might come out as too thin for my preferences. 8-core braid would look nicer too and had more weigth to it for better handling.
     
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2019
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  2. Slater
    I am doing it to help other members and audiophiles who buy the budget pre-made cables. Most people cannot make their own cables, because they don’t have the skills or the proper equipment.

    You are right though; when you build your own cable, you know exactly what quality of parts are used, that everything is soldered properly, you can make the braid how you want, etc.
     
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  3. Jsingh4
    Wrong thread.
     
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  4. FastAndClean
    try in the earbud thread
     
  5. Jsingh4
    Oh sorry wrong thread.
     
  6. jaker782
    How is the build quality on 165? Microphonic and stiff or soft and supple? Too thick for portable use?
     
  7. hakuzen
    build quality is excellent. not the most flexible, not the stiffest. some microphonics, although i don't hear any when playing music. it's light and thin (4 cores cable), i'm using it for portable use. one of my two favs sound wise.
     
  8. Zerohour88
    I think I have that same HCK cable but the silver one? its black and is cheaper than usd$10, IIRC. Only opened the jack using a plier and a locking plier, all the cores seemed soldered on. Tested the resistance prior and it was consistently sub 0.2ohm (or something close to that). Definitely can recommend. Not sure if the MMCX part is also removable by plier, its a bit small and no leverage to use my pliers on it.

    [​IMG]

    Forgot to mention I also had the 2-pin version that measured roughly similar to this, but I was stupid and didn't notice that it wouldn't fit the Massdrop Plus. So in storage it goes.
     
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  9. BadReligionPunk
    So bought a milliohm meter and have a ton of cables so thought I would try to help out here as well. I don't know what the exact protocol is but I have just been using minus sign to signify grnd or negative. Anyway, I have been floored by some of the things I have found. Take for example.

    KZ ZSN bronze cable(R- 1.102 R+ 0.995 L- 0.790 L+ 0.960)
    KZ ZSN copper cable (R- 0.308 R+ 0.307 L- 0.307 L+ 0.302). $3

    Quite a big difference. Also throw in the fact that the copper cable is like $3 shipped. Not a bad option if low on money.

    Also Measured my 2 JCALLY 8 core cables that I purchased last sale for $10 each. Both are extremely heavy and very thick(too much for me),but they measured even and quite low. Both cables measured almost identical to each other. A little to heavy for me personally but good strong cable with good sound and good measurements.
    jcally 8core mmcx 3.5mm (R- 0.140 R+ 0.145 L- 0.138 L+ 0.155) $10
    jcally 8core 3.5mm 2pin (R- 0.142 R+ 0.146 0.142 L+ 0.155) $10
    IMG_20190615_072140.jpg



    Also in the $10 class Venture Electronics 4 core cables. I bought these in midnight blue off of massdrop. They are light and super flexible. Very comfortable. Its almost like wearing nothing at all.
    V.E. 4 core 2.5bal 2 pin (R- 0.670 R+ 0.459 L - 0.438 L+ 0.465) $10
    V.E. 4 core 2.5bal mmcx (R- 0.410 R+ 0.465 L- 0.505 L+ 0.475) $10
    IMG_20190614_172723.jpg

    Now best in class at $20-$25. My VJC cable. Kind of bulky and a bit heavy, but sounds great. Hard to find.
    VJC cable mmcx 3.5mm (R- 0.143 R+ 0.181 L- 0.155 L+ 0.185) $20
    IMG_20190615_081435.jpg
    Now on to my NiceHCK cable. Surprised at the differances in measurements here from others that have been measured.
    NICEHCK 8core black 2.5bal (R- 0.361 R+ 0.347 L- 0.336 L+ 0.367) $10
    NICEHCK 16core copper 2.5bal (R- 0.246 R+ 0.243 L- 0.250 L+ 0.235) $17
    NICEHCK EBX mmcx 3.5 (R- 0.342 R+ 0.310 L- 0.351 L+ 0.325) $40
    NICEHCK N3 mmcx 3.5 (R- 0.519 R+ 0.552 L- 0.519 L+ 0.545) $6

    Some of the many TRN 8 cores I have. Not measuring all of them, but wow! they are all pretty consistently inconsistent
    TRN 8core MMCX 3.5 (R- 0.128 R+ 0.218 L- 0.245 L+ 0.448)
    TRN 8 core 2.5bal (R- 0.145 R+ 0.245 L- 0.480 L+ 0.249)
    TRN 8core 2.5 bal (R- 0.135 R+ 0.240 L- 0.475 L+ 0.260)

    Thats it for now. :wave:
     
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  10. Cevisi
    Any tips for a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter ?
     
  11. Zerohour88
    Hm..the EBX MMCX is the one that comes stock, right? the really great looking mixed cable? I think I measured it a bit lower than yours too (sub 0.2ohms?). Using a cheap chinese multimeter despite being True-RMS, apparently. Might be near the margin of error.

    Ibasso CA01? usd$16 or so on Penon, really quite nice (comes stock with the Ibasso IT04 balanced cables, which is quite great value)
     
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  12. Broquen
    € 12,60 | 2.5mm Socket to 3.5mm Jack Earphone Cable Jack Male to TRRS Female Audio Adapter Cable for 2.5mm Balanced Earphones Headphone
    https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/eju66ubYR

    This one works pretty well for me.
     
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  13. jaker782
    I appreciate the insight. I may give this one a try. I'm looking for a decent cable with angled mmcx connectors and this appears to be the only one with any feedback. The other one I found on AE here:
    https://redirect.viglink.com/?forma...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_1,searchweb201603_52

    This one is 8 core, so a bit thicker, but description says it is very soft.
     
  14. BadReligionPunk
    Yea. its the $40 one from the EBX. Possible you measured different. They are probably not all going to be super consistant at these prices.
    BTW Im using a milliohm meter. Same one Slater uses. He turned me on to it. Runs about $50 after buying leads and a battery box with on/off switch.
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32955521390.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.320e4c4dFPl9WP
     
  15. hakuzen
    thanks!
    nice to see another large batch of cables without solder issues, except of trn 8 cores, of course.
    would you like i add your measurements of cables which are already in my list? more measurements, more info (better statistics).. i'd indicate they are your measurements, of course

    you have a list of some of them, with resistance measurements, in my lists:
    https://www.head-fi.org/threads/resistance-of-cables-pics-comments-and-links.907998/
    click on - adapters (measurements, pics, and links)
     
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