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Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!

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  1. Ckro
    Same issue here, still waiting for a 2pin version...
  2. Ckro
    Same issue here, waiting for the 2pin version...
  3. randomnin
    Hypothetically, say one doesn't hear any difference between 2$ and 2k$ cables, then the question would obviously be not of sound quality but of comfort, durability and long-term monetary expenses. Has anybody done some calculations on what is the cheapest way to go? What is the average lifespan of a cable, are there some cables that boast substantially more days of use per dollar spent? Are there materials and types of construction that can be used as simple markers of superior or inferior durability?

    I did a search of some relevant terms in this topic, but this perspective seems to have been mostly eschewed, so any input would be greatly appreciated.
  4. Slater
    My take is you can buy and wear out 5x$20 cables for every 1x$100 cable.

    Is the $100 cable going to outlast the $20 cable by a factor of 5? Absolutely not.

    So if you can’t tell the difference between a $20 cable and a $100 or $2000 cable, then just get the $20 cable.
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  5. archdawg
    Just for the record ... the MMCX connectors on the ~$8 (AE) black and white 8-core TRN cable don't fit onto my Tin T2s.
  6. zedbg
    I got same cable but yellow and it fits great on Tin T2
  7. archdawg
    I've heard of some issues with the MMCX connectors on the T2 before. How old are your T2? (that TRN cable fits perfectly on my DT6)
  8. hakuzen
    guess durability depends of:

    - quality of material and construction of plugs, solders, and strain reliefs.
    gold/silver/rodhium plating goes off with use and time; then, the jack can start oxidizing.
    solders can break. construction inside plugs (solders, sleeve, glue) together with strain relief affect to this. in this case, repairable plugs (unscrew ability, no hard glue, room) contribute to longer durability.
    wire can be tangled and broken near plugs if not good strain reliefs.

    - type of dielectric sleeve.
    weak sleeve, although flexible, can contribute to wire damage: scratches and cuts, tangle+break, oxidizing.. while tougher sleeve protects better the wire.

    - type of wire.
    thicker threads of wire are less flexible and more prone to get tangled and broken.
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  9. JackFlash
    Slightly off topic. I see some of the Chifi cables described as having "fever wire." I assume this is a bad translation of marketing speak. Are they trying to say the cable is "hot"?
  10. Slater
    I have a few TRN 8-wire cables, and they all fit like a champ on both my T2s.

    Try the TRN on something else (or a different mmcx cable on the T2).
  11. Cevisi
    How is the sound quality and the comfort on the t2. I still need a 2.5balanced for my t2 ordered now the isn s8 2.5 for my dm6.
  12. Slater
    That fever business is usually referring to ‘bass’. It’s just some dumb thing that gets lost in translation.

    Last edited: May 30, 2019
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  13. Slater
    Sound quality good. Comfort, not so good (at least for me).

    Of course, your personal fit may be totally different than mine. I will say that I have pretty average ears, and there’s very few earphones I can’t wear comfortably. The T2 is one of those few.

    Be aware though; the design of the T2 (and T2 Pro and T3) allows you to wear them up or down. So that may be an option to get the best fit.
  14. archdawg
    Like I posted a couple mins. later the TRN fits perfectly on both my DT6s, but no chance on the T2. Anyway, just a check - I usually have a 16-core NiceHCK on my T2 #1 and a 4-core something on the backup set (#2).
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  15. hakuzen
    think i provided links to 2pin versions of cables using taiwan 7N frozen UP-OCC wire, and even 8 cores versions, iirc. anyway, here they go again.

    in fact, received cable 170 (2pins 28awg 7n frozen up-occ copper LITZ cable). thinner than 165 but litz (independent shield/enamel of every thread into the cores, should provide even darker background and bigger stage in theory).
    i was expecting around 300mΩ resistance due to structure, and it is ~255mΩ (better) resistance due to higher conductivity of 7n frozen up-occ wire.
    after first AB between 170 and 165, sound differences are minimal, if any. but 170 maybe provides even slight better stage and darker background, so this litz version would be superior. 8 cores version would be around 130mΩ resistance, which could be great.
    being nitpicker, cons of 170 cable are jack strain relief (too short and stiff), and thickness (although not critical, 255mΩ is a bit high for my taste).

    2pins/mmcx available of taiwan 7n frozen/cryo up-occ wire:

    170 taiwan 7N cryo UP-OCC copper LITZ 4cores 28g eagle jack copper color 80€: 252, 254, 268, 290 mΩ. 21.46g 0.08/0.07mm*19(OD:1.08mm,27.3/28AWG)*4c
    link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/1000007909452.html electro acousti
    wire: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/33008255130.html (litz)

    171 taiwan 7N cryo UP-OCC copper 4cores 28g eagle jack copper color 75€. ~260mΩ 0.08/0.07mm*19(OD:1.08mm,27.3/28AWG)*4c
    link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32999961682.html electro acousti
    wire: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/1000007925933.html (no litz)

    175 taiwan 7N cryo UP-OCC silver plated copper 8c eagle silver color 149€ 130-175mΩ 0.08/0.07mm*19(OD:1.08mm,27.3//28awg)*8c 24.3/25.5AWG per signal 130-175
    link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/33000585105.html
    wire: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/1000007744883.html (no litz)
    Last edited: May 30, 2019
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